Wow colossus sucks.  

Of Couse someone should've banned me on porpuse.  

Posted by MisaChan

Of Couse someone should've banned me on porpuse.

Posted by Rufus

Around 80-90% of bans issued are from witnessed player-reported situations. I'd say this has more to do with people getting banned close to GST (people within that community reporting more frequently) if that's even a real thing.

ppl report each other for the gst  

about bans though, it seemed like more openly-banned players than ever were able to participate in this GST
examples are Lethal and Noss, both who were banned on their main accounts before the GST but were able to participate on secondary accounts (and actually managed to win) - there are others, just an example

before our iDevice finals, that came up as a discussion in guild chat and I told them that I'd be annoyed if any of our members were to report them and get a "free win" through a DQ, so that didn't happen

I don't know exactly what resources admins have to determine who is evading ban - obviously someone can change their IP, but I'd assume there is some device ID or something else that should be able to determine that stuff (assuming they're using the same device)
it'd also make sense for accounts under a certain threshold of hours to not be able to enter the GST (for obvious reasons)

bugs me just a little bit because if a guild like Alumni were to report this then we'd be shamed for abiding by the rules, yet if we broke this rule then you know we'd immediately be punished for it
imagine if someone like Sarah were to evade a ban on an alternate account - 500 people would have admins on her before the first round even starts

there's a huge fuss about the lag rule every GST, but this one is just as important and it kind of sucks that it relies on player intervention
maybe it can be improved upon in future GSTs  

Posted by Thallen

about bans though, it seemed like more openly-banned players than ever were able to participate in this GST
examples are Lethal and Noss, both who were banned on their main accounts before the GST but were able to participate on secondary accounts (and actually managed to win) - there are others, just an example

before our iDevice finals, that came up as a discussion in guild chat and I told them that I'd be annoyed if any of our members were to report them and get a "free win" through a DQ, so that didn't happen

I don't know exactly what resources admins have to determine who is evading ban - obviously someone can change their IP, but I'd assume there is some device ID or something else that should be able to determine that stuff (assuming they're using the same device)
it'd also make sense for accounts under a certain threshold of hours to not be able to enter the GST (for obvious reasons)

bugs me just a little bit because if a guild like Alumni were to report this then we'd be shamed for abiding by the rules, yet if we broke this rule then you know we'd immediately be punished for it
imagine if someone like Sarah were to evade a ban on an alternate account - 500 people would have admins on her before the first round even starts

there's a huge fuss about the lag rule every GST, but this one is just as important and it kind of sucks that it relies on player intervention
maybe it can be improved upon in future GSTs

We sparred a team who had two people performing ban evasion, the admin hosting said they couldn't do anything about it and to report them after GST. I mean, they could of easily just switched them out with subs but we beat them nonetheless. Still a fun match at the end.  

Posted by Colin

We sparred a team who had two people performing ban evasion, the admin hosting said they couldn't do anything about it and to report them after GST. I mean, they could of easily just switched them out with subs but we beat them nonetheless. Still a fun match at the end.

yeah

I mean, the act of evading a ban to participate doesn't bother me, it's just the fact that if my team tried to do that then I know we'd 100% get DQ'd because there are a lot of people who dislike us and the general community doesn't like seeing the same team win
it kind of goes from being an enforced rule to a popularity thing and that's a little annoying, but whatever

on another note, every single hat released today at York is better than every single damn one of the Mixed GST hats  

Posted by Thallen

yeah

I mean, the act of evading a ban to participate doesn't bother me, it's just the fact that if my team tried to do that then I know we'd 100% get DQ'd because there are a lot of people who dislike us and the general community doesn't like seeing the same team win
it kind of goes from being an enforced rule to a popularity thing and that's a little annoying, but whatever

on another note, every single hat released today at York is better than every single damn one of the Mixed GST hats

You're hated because more than half your team consist of delayers, and you get away with it?  

Posted by Ash Ketchum

You're hated because more than half your team consist of delayers, and you get away with it?

that's probably the least important part of the entire topic, but it comes as no surprise that you'd pick and choose to reply to that part

maybe you didn't read:

there's a huge fuss about the lag rule every GST, but this one is just as important and it kind of sucks that it relies on player intervention

but nah, the kids on the iDevice team are disliked because they win often and because I lead the guild

otherwise Memento would have been treated that way (full Japanese team)
otherwise The R0ller would have been treated that way (full Japanese team)
otherwise vDragz would have been treated that way (full Australian team)
otherwise 5pa4 would have been treated that way (mostly players in the Middle East)
otherwise Vindictive would have been treated that way
and so on, and so on, etc.

not to mention, if any of them do lag they always get DQ'd for it, so I don't even know what you're going on about here… pretending it's an advantage to freeze and get hit for free or be warped out of the arena is kind of dumb
you can post your argument but it will be probably add nothing new to the discussion - it was a post about enforcing a rule  

Posted by Thallen

on another note, every single hat released today at York is better than every single damn one of the Mixed GST hats

Yeah, although I kind of enjoy having this big rock hat, it's definitely different than a majority of the other hats on Graal.  

delay has been around for so long, people just make a big deal out of it now because the "delayers" are winning more than they are losing  

I have to agree with thallen. I don't really like their guild but this is something that needs to be addressed. The whole purpose of banning players is so that they serve their punishement. What's the point of getting banned if you can still participate in graal's highly anticipated event? There is a purpose to banning people and that's so they learn from their errors, not to reward them with a hat, belt, or a statue. As much as I dislike alumni and am very pleased that VIS won, its a little silly that banned players can run away with this as opposed to a hated team, because I for one would do the same exact thing..  

Posted by Ash Ketchum

Seriously? What is the point of recording the fights if you're a laggy ***

^^^^  

Posted by yurhomi

The whole purpose of banning players is so that they serve their punishement. What's the point of getting banned if you can still participate in graal's highly anticipated event? There is a purpose to banning people and that's so they learn from their errors, not to reward them with a hat, belt, or a statue.

A lil light regarding the bold part of your post

Posted by Rufus

It is possible for a member of staff to be "hacked" too

http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...9&postcount=63
^^someones partial hacking history

Posted by GOAT

the other one was to graphic, so lets try something more PG-13

http://i59.tinypic.com/2vdr7ld.png (Unsupported image host)

Everything is starting to make sense now. Can't believe it took me so long to figure it out. As you can see people were not lying when they said bans increased days prior to the GST.  

Posted by Colin

Yeah, although I kind of enjoy having this big rock hat, it's definitely different than a majority of the other hats on Graal.

that was the best Mixed hat in terms of quality IMO, I wanted it but the majority voted for the mask we got

Posted by yurhomi

There is a purpose to banning people and that's so they learn from their errors, not to reward them with a hat, belt, or a statue.

yeah, IDK

I'm sure me bringing this up makes it come across as if I'm salty that my team lost, but it's really not that at all, it's more that I know my iDevice team could never get away with this so I kind of feel bad for them

Abood and Jack have been banned for the last 2 GSTs so we didn't use them, and I'd kind of expect to immediately be DQ'd if we ever did, so when I see other strong teams using banned players it kind of sucks  

Lol idc what anyone says certain people on alumni lag, im not saying this because they beat my team its just a clear fact.