you should never have been able to have kills against your guildmates added to your stats in the first place, this just causes morons to run around shooting arrows at their friends (who can't fight back) basically boosting their stats. if you seriously liked this, a lot of your kills are not legitimate and it is time for you to play the game the way it is meant to be played.

in response to the whole "don't vote if this doesn't affect you" wtf how butthurt are you over this? this will affect anyone who has ever been in a tower guild. really good move by the staff team. stop crying booster.  

Of course not, it's basically boosting. I'm glad they finally changed it.  

Posted by Asaiki

Can you stop whining c:

How am I whining? How about you stop making false accusations and contribute something to the thread?

Posted by Comyt

you should never have been able to have kills against your guildmates added to your stats in the first place, this just causes morons to run around shooting arrows at their friends (who can't fight back) basically boosting their stats. if you seriously liked this, a lot of your kills are not legitimate and it is time for you to play the game the way it is meant to be played.

in response to the whole "don't vote if this doesn't affect you" wtf how butthurt are you over this? this will affect anyone who has ever been in a tower guild. really good move by the staff team. stop crying booster.

I didn't know it was changed until I was told about it. Apparrently it was disabled months ago.

You're not seeing it through my point of view. Imagine Vic and I towering and Aguzo comes to PK us. I want Aguzo to stop so I thought "Why did he come here in the first place? He wants kills!", so I use arrows to kill my Vic and vice versa so Aguzo doesn't get PKs and leaves.

"Don't vote if this doesn't affect you" is directed to the people who don't tower or PK.

The purpose of this thread is to discuss this staff decision. I don't want it back or anything.  

If you can't kill team members with your sword you shouldn't be able to kill them with arrows or bombs, if you want to stop a PKer from going to your tower switch tags and steal his PKs on another tag  

so just kill your member without it counting as a kill and move on. your "point of view" doesn't make sense. why would you make this thread about it counting as a kill or not unless you desire some more boosted stats off of your fellow members.  

doesn't make sense to me how being able to kill someone would not add a kill to your statistics
if it doesn't give you a kill then I don't understand why it gives them a death

doesn't particularly matter to me either way, because killing guild members at 0.5 is just as viable of a strategy either way, but there should probably be some sort of consistency between not gaining a kill vs. them gaining a death  

@thread in general: Solution: stop being pussies and play the game for what it is.  

Should make it for allies as well. I believe allies get the kills as well.  

Posted by Kouji

If you can't kill team members with your sword you shouldn't be able to kill them with arrows or bombs, if you want to stop a PKer from going to your tower switch tags and steal his PKs on another tag

First part makes sense, second part is inconvenient. Bombs shouldn't add kills to your profile or just make guildmates and allies immune to bombs and arrows to avoid deaths increasing if the kill was accidental.

Posted by Comyt

so just kill your member without it counting as a kill and move on. your "point of view" doesn't make sense. why would you make this thread about it counting as a kill or not unless you desire some more boosted stats off of your fellow members.

Basically you kill your guildmate so the PKer doesn't get kills and leaves. I never relied on kills from guildmates and I barely noticed this change.

Posted by Kosiris

The purpose of this thread is to discuss this staff decision. I don't want it back or anything.

Posted by twilit

@thread in general: Solution: stop being pussies and play the game for what it is.

???  

They should just disable being able to kill guild members with bombs/arrows, but then again allies would get on a tag, steal flag, and then give to an enemy guild. Honestly, graal could have a really good system, but people always find a way to abuse it.  

Posted by Hikaru

2 years ago , when I used to pk somewhat often especially at castle.

Aha nice, whats that song man!

@thread a kills a kill they still have to damage them, I used to spam stuff at some members to see if they afking/to keep awake lol  

I arrow guild mates on 0.5 when we are defending a tower and enemies aren't in the flag room so they can respawn and come back up with full health fast. It should not count for pks.  

Posted by _Dellik_

I arrow guild mates on 0.5 when we are defending a tower and enemies aren't in the flag room so they can respawn and come back up with full health fast.

same
making it so you can't kill your own team with bombs/arrows like some are suggesting adds nothing to the game

eliminates certain elements of team-involved strategy at towers like Deadwood, Swamp, Castle, Destiny, etc. (any tower where you don't spawn at the flag) where guild mates can assist in killing you so you can return to the flag healthy enough to defend it

would empower already-strong towers like Sardon's and allow you to just spam bombs for free through narrow pathways during any attack at 0 consequence
Snow would be completely untakeable against any guild with a brain, because you can just have 2 people on either side of the flag spamming arrows parallel to the flag and only hitting enemies

etc.  

Posted by Hikaru

They should just disable being able to kill guild members with bombs/arrows, but then again allies would get on a tag, steal flag, and then give to an enemy guild. Honestly, graal could have a really good system, but people always find a way to abuse it.

good point mate. solution: disable ally damage on the flag. so when allies hit either flag hp goes up, or stays the same.  

I think this is one of those cases where it doesn't matter which way it goes. Don't think the guild mate killing is high enough to affect the pk stat of the game.


I remember Simple-Z used to kill everyone in HK when we would tower just because he was bored and not to get kills.