Posted by Taru

This is defintely true, also most people were complaining because were way to Overpowered.

The 100hp buff and Gun Stat change were totally fine with me because we had a higher Damage range we could use such as from 12-18 and not only 6-9.

And more powerfull guns to defeat those Way to op Melees? so you want us make miniguns and Bars? or Highdamaged guns with low firerate and highfreeze can Melee even more ? no thanks.

They way it was before it was setted back was perfectly fine. It added some Requierment in skill instead of "have-a-45hs-or-20k-gp-melee-to-survive tactics"

But oh well it is not only my decision and i can understand People that are mad because they cant rush with melees back in "time" and needed finally to get on a challenge with Guns.

i hope our testing will end Good.

I never had this much fun in basing before with just using guns. Like you could literally see everyone trying to improve themselves to win which is what I did aswell. Basing with guns as main weapon is a lot more fun in my opinion  

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I didn't wanna make a new thread but why is stats coming up twice but they are different stats?? Different server?? I don't understand the person I screenied said he doesn't know why its like that...I been seeing it alot  

he just changed is status to this obviously?  

Idk why he would lie and say he didn't know.. especially a guildie. I just wanted to make sure.that's y i asked  

Posted by iBubble

I never had this much fun in basing before with just using guns. Like you could literally see everyone trying to improve themselves to win which is what I did aswell. Basing with guns as main weapon is a lot more fun in my opinion

I agree, basing was 2x better then it was before, the reason I quit basing and went to spar, was the fact people were just rushing with melees and rushing the flag, like what's the fun in that.  

You should just try making the melees slower and keeping guns, hp, flag hp the same. That would be the simplest way to go.

I wouldn't suggest higher rof's and dmg because then people will just spam. Why not implement a critical hit function that if you get hit a certain number of times within a period of time your dmg is doubled for one shot. This way when someone is rushing with melee and they get hit 2x within 2 sec my dmg goes from 6 to 12 on the third shot.  

We were having such a good time yesterday basing too, taking bases with 12 people with just 3 people, since it was more skill based, well, time to go back to never basing again and just doing jobs.  

Honestly 100hp is the way to go, it gives way more room for balancing existing and future weapons. Releasing more powerful guns is just going to ruin the game because it comes to a point where mistakes are made and never allowed to be fixed. Like stacked damage on era where instead of removing it they decide to change the entire dynamic of the game to try and accommodate for it. But just ruin the game in the end. Before yesterday melees were ridiculous, you just get rushed by them since they have extremely low freeze and ridiculous damage output compared to the guns. If people want to melee fight they can play classic and if they want to spam ridiculous broken guns they can play era. This server has the best jobs by far compared to other iOS servers and that's great and all but I'd love to see it not only have the best jobs but the best combat as well. Combat (among other things) is more intense when it's not so fast paced that it's over in the blink of an eye.  

Posted by Iceman

You should just try making the melees slower and keeping guns, hp, flag hp the same. That would be the simplest way to go.

I wouldn't suggest higher rof's and dmg because then people will just spam. Why not implement a critical hit function that if you get hit a certain number of times within a period of time your dmg is doubled for one shot. This way when someone is rushing with melee and they get hit 2x within 2 sec my dmg goes from 6 to 12 on the third shot.

we did that and ppl raged bc they are like i didnt bought that weak weapon.

but when we keep the stats and increase the hp it would be fine imo well still for a nerf on hs/Gp items  

Posted by Taru

we did that and ppl raged bc they are like i didnt bought that weak weapon.

but when we keep the stats and increase the hp it would be fine imo well still for a nerf on hs/Gp items

The people who are complaining are the people who rush with melees and never used a gun.  

I do not use guns as much because the guns here are bad. The melees are better. This is why i ask of you taru, to bring better guns to the horseshoe shop. It has two guns only, and even gp has 4! If you do not improve your weapons overtime, why are players going to play? Might as well go to classic if you want to have skill, and have the same stats bow everyone has with no guns at all. Guns need improvement. You CAN put higher damaged good guns in the game, but they have to be attainable. Add some Horseshoe guns first. We have been waiting but we do not see any progress in the shop.alot of us havealot of horseshoes, but nothing else to spend it on.  

ibreezy i dont get you ? you complained about that we made guns better then melees aka only buffed the guns damage and now you come me with better guns isnt that what we just did yesterday??

And making guns better right now to compete with melees will end up in making Bar and miniguns since those 45hs melees and 20k gp melees have no freeze and 9 dmg  

Posted by Taru

we did that and ppl raged bc they are like i didnt bought that weak weapon.

but when we keep the stats and increase the hp it would be fine imo well still for a nerf on hs/Gp items

Yea but the people who complained about the melee nerf will complain about any change affecting melee dominance. I think it's just a bandage you should rip off, weapons change on every mmo game.

People want to keep the melees like they are because it's easier to get 3 ppl to hit the flag while taking dmg then it is to kill everyone and then taking. Earlier there was a comment about pk being harder, it just goes to show the current mentality of using a melee to kill within seconds rather then fighting ppl for a min and getting one kill. This creates a lack of competition and all depends on who has more hp.

ibreezy,
You don't need stronger guns, as for gun variety that's a secondary issue it is only going to make this debate worst if more ppl invest in melees  

I vote you change it for a week so the players are forced to man-up and get used to it regardless of how they first feel, one day doesn't seem enough for the players to see the true potential and adapt to change.  

well it is not my decision at all i would like to change them too but o well we gotta live with that