Posted by Conquest

Of course they use unethical warfare, because they are weak; this doesn't make it okay to do what we did. They are defending themselves & trying to send a message to the world that they are innocent.

IDK might just be me but I think there's a better way for them to convey the message they are innocent that doesn't involve preaching you are going to murder everyone who does not follow your faith, executing young children and other innocent people (that follow your faith and are 'innocent' like you) and celebrating every time you brutally kill a bunch of people

"Hey we crashed this plane and killed a bunch of people!! Yay for us it was us everyone!!!" how does that translate to "we are innocent!!!"??????  

Posted by Colin

IDK might just be me but I think there's a better way for them to convey the message they are innocent that doesn't involve preaching you are going to murder everyone who does not follow your faith, executing young children and other innocent people (that follow your faith and are 'innocent' like you) and celebrating every time you brutally kill a bunch of people

"Hey we crashed this plane and killed a bunch of people!! Yay for us it was us everyone!!!" how does that translate to "we are innocent!!!"??????

I'm sorry, but you really believe that bombing Iraq and these other countries then demonizing their God in the media & their people as crazy lunatics is going to inspire a people to say, "Oh. It's alright. I didn't like what you did though! But, we're innocent. That was unfair."?

America says, "Our towers were attacked by some rag-tag posse in Iraq. LET'S KIILLLLL THEM AAAAALLL!!!!" Then bombed the **** out of their people, shot them up, gutted them alive, took pictures of their naked & enslaved people in humiliating manners. Everyone cheered like the Gestapo.

Now, why is it okay for us to do this? Is it because we CAAAALL ourselves "justice, liberty, America, the government, & national defense"? So, because our economy is bigger and our weapons are bigger, we can belittle and rage at anyone who has attacked us?—and to do it for 15 years?

Yet, I tell you—America took down its own towers, then began bombing Islamic cities, framing their religious beliefs, & taking down their towers, leaving innocent people who were happily living their lives in mangled pieces, forced to live out the rest of their human existence (decades, upon decades) in misery with scars, paralysis, missing limbs, lost jobs, lost friends & families, lost property, diseases, & burns.

America & Israel sabotaged our own people—THOUSSSSANDS of people—then sabotaged THOUUUSSSANDS of other countries' people—for oil, and territory. Now, you tell me that it's okay for us to get mad when we believe we've been wronged, and to literally obliterate and seize an entire country over it … But, when it turns out that it's all a rouse and in fact it is our supposed enemy that is the victim, it's not okay for them to begin declaring war on innocents? Because they don't own fighter-jets to drop bombs & mutilate THOUUUSSAANDS of people, they simply shoot maybe 136 instead … And it's not okay? It's different?

It's okay to mutilate THOUUUSSAANDS of innocent Iraqis going about their daily normal civilian city life, because we did it from a fighter-jet & an explosive; but, because we are more militantly sophisticated, it is not the same thing? It's not okay for a lesser sophisticated country who is being framed to shoot up a concert?

How is it different? You know that when we dropped bombs on these innocent countries, we didn't blow up military bases; we blew up hundreds of innocent cities. It didn't stop there; Israel has been bombing more than just Iraq. Gaza and other cities are being targeted; you don't think these cities had concerts full of hundreds of people enjoying themselves when they were mutilated by explosives?

It's the exact same thing; put yourself in someone else's shoes.  

What is happening on either side is a tragedy; and I am sorry for calling anyone names. You aren't a bunch of piece of **** worthless losers. lol
But my point is, there's a lot more to this story than people are considering. Ending a war isn't just about winning; there isn't winning in war—only survivors. It is about justice, and what is true and what isn't true. The solution is to back off, repent, and apologize for what happened to their people & to love them.  

antago you need to lay of the lsd man  

Posted by Crono

antago you need to lay of the lsd man

I don't do drugs; you know, it'd be real ****ing nice to be admired for the things I say rather than questioned, called a drug addict, called hateful, zealous, ignorant, overbearing, and stupid. I was told I am hateful toward atheists because they are scourging (disciplinary & emotionally controlling, which is true). Has kindness gone away these days? Is love really so superficial anymore, and something you get only when you agree with the popular opinion?

You realize the media has brainwashed you into attacking free thinkers & the truth, right? It's what preserves the power of the deceptive agendas of the power elite. Praise the sheep, beat up the lions. How else would you control the masses?  

because you sound bat**** crazy, surely you understand why?  

Posted by Conquest

Now, why is it okay for us to do this? Is it because we CAAAALL ourselves "justice, liberty, America, the government, & national defense"? So, because our economy is bigger and our weapons are bigger, we can belittle and rage at anyone who has attacked us?—and to do it for 15 years?

It's the exact same thing; put yourself in someone else's shoes.

I never said it was okay, in fact a lot of Americans don't think it's okay either. I am just trying to say what they are doing is inhumane and I will never feel like it is justified, I feel the same way towards things the American government has done like Hiroshima, murdering innocent people is always wrong regardless of what country does it.

I don't think air striking them is the solution I know that it has brought many civilian casualties but there's no other option, these people know no peace and they will not stop - sacrifices have to be made.

We are still trying our best to help them and that is why we are accepting refugees even in times of terror like this, the world isn't perfect and neither is war especially when it is so divided by things like religion and race and that's one of the reason I do not believe in it, if all religions shared the same G-d (which they do) would he/she really want them to be killing each other like this??

I can see from the other side of the shoe, but that doesn't change the fact what they are doing is wrong and needs to be stopped.

Posted by Conquest

You realize the media has brainwashed you into attacking free thinkers & the truth, right? It's what preserves the power of the deceptive agendas of the power elite. Praise the sheep, beat up the lions. How else would you control the masses?

Doesn't really make sense coming from you, a lot of atheists are free thinkers (the reason we are able to not believe in religion) and you are attacking us with all this spew about us being bad people and what not.  

My opinion= Nuke them all ... They want to kill us all , our friends and family :/ this is a war.. I am talking from radicale islamistes im not saying every muslim is bad , but all the salafists have to die or they will do everything to kill us ( you)!  

Posted by Crono

because you sound bat**** crazy, surely you understand why?

Surely I understand why? Please don't insult my intelligence like you own the world. I am not the only person who claims the media is brainwashing people for political agenda, and that 9/11 was staged, nor the only person who believes in astrology, God, and the passing of astrological ages. So, really—buddy, get a clue!!!

Posted by Colin

I never said it was okay, in fact a lot of Americans don't think it's okay either. I am just trying to say what they are doing is inhumane and I will never feel like it is justified, I feel the same way towards things the American government has done like Hiroshima, murdering innocent people is always wrong regardless of what country does it.

Right. Is merely my point; there is much more going on here.

Posted by Colin

I don't think air striking them is the solution I know that it has brought many civilian casualties but there's no other option, these people know no peace and they will not stop - sacrifices have to be made.

America could be said the same; when do we know peace? We've been at war since our inception. This notion that America is a peaceful, nobel state has been being using for a long time now; really, we're not. We just always play the victim and if a war ends, we call it victory. Really, I know a lot of narcissists who pass herpes & play the same game; it's an old rouse.

Posted by Colin

We are still trying our best to help them and that is why we are accepting refugees even in times of terror like this, the world isn't perfect and neither is war especially when it is so divided by things like religion and race and that's one of the reason I do not believe in it, if all religions shared the same G-d (which they do) would he/she really want them to be killing each other like this??

Islam is not the only people killing; Judaism is doing it, atheists are killing believers, Christians are killing non-believers, and so-forth. I'm not sure what you're saying. The difference is that when wars happen a lot of time the reasons are simply covered up.

Posted by Colin

I can see from the other side of the shoe, but that doesn't change the fact what they are doing is wrong and needs to be stopped.

When the world publicly admits 9/11 was wrong, and that Islam is not the problem—I'm sure things will be different. I don't see it happening, however; I've known *****s who still play the Mother Teresa card. The liars will go down in smoke before admitting to the world the atrocities they have done to get an upper hand; thus, the victims will continue to form militias regardless of their belief system. It's human thing, not Islam; their faith is just part of their encouragement, no different than any belief system in a warrior.

Posted by Colin

Doesn't really make sense coming from you, a lot of atheists are free thinkers (the reason we are able to not believe in religion) and you are attacking us with all this spew about us being bad people and what not.

I don't call that free thinking; simply rejecting the occult "religions" doesn't make you above me as a free thinker. It is this bigotry & judgment call that makes me call you a bad person; you think you are better than me, more beautiful, rational, loving, and freer—and you don't want my religious & spiritual experiences to be expressed without telling me I am uncertain of them or they may not exist. You call me a liar all day long; stop  

Crono he's too far gone man...  

Posted by Conquest

I don't call that free thinking; simply rejecting the occult "religions" doesn't make you above me as a free thinker. It is this bigotry & judgment call that makes me call you a bad person; you think you are better than me, more beautiful, rational, loving, and freer—and you don't want my religious & spiritual experiences to be expressed without telling me I am uncertain of them or they may not exist. You call me a liar all day long; stop

I don't think I am better than you because you are religious and I am not, I just think I'm better than you because I'm better than everyone, even fellow atheists. Yah some atheists might think they are above everyone for religious purposes but some religious people do the same, I'm just full of myself and have good self-confidence nothing more has nothing to do with me being atheist.

Half the things you say I think I am better at I never even said either so IDK where that came from but it's probably true, and as I said I don't care if people are religious I will accept their beliefs even if I do not believe myself and I am not calling you a liar for having those beliefs either, I just don't care enough about religion to care if it's actually real or not because it doesn't matter to me as do most atheist (aside from some bad apples, but every religion has those too) that and as you can see all it has done is divide the human race and is just a negative thing which wouldn't make sense for a g-d to do. Maybe they exist or maybe they don't at the end of the day it doesn't change anything.

Anyways this is just back and forth with the same points and arguing won't solve any problems so not going to reply anymore, just don't be so quick to judge others based on their personal beliefs (which so far you are the only one who's done so), good day!!  

Posted by Fulgore

Crono he's too far gone man...

u just dont understand the beuatiful spirituality of his soul inertwined wiht the psionic resonsance of the universe and all organisms in existence pulsing htru our bodies  

Okay; I'm done with this ridicule. Transference is always the best defense. FYI, I am the end times judge; enjoy your karma. You could have learned something; it is you who are blind & dead. You feel cold when the picture is a frozen paradise, because that is what blindness does. You feel pain & misery when it is actually beautiful. Your next life won't be kind when you're suffering the terrifying emotional roller coaster of extreme pain & pleasure in an abusive childhood to resuscitate you with enlightenment.  

Posted by Conquest

Okay; I'm done with this ridicule. FYI, I am the end times judge; enjoy your karma. You could have learned something; it is you who are blind & dead. You feel cold when the picture is a frozen paradise, because that is what blindness does. You feel pain & misery when it is actually beautiful. Your next life won't be kind when you're suffering the roller coaster of terrifying pain & pleasure in an abusive childhood to resuscitate you with enlightenment.

nah im actually doing pretty well. you're the one who feels the urge to address every personal attack with paragraphs of text, as if your ego couldnt handle some ****** on graalians calling your supernatural beliefs silly.  

Posted by Crono

nah im actually doing pretty well. you're the one who feels the urge to address every personal attack with paragraphs of text, as if your ego couldnt handle some ****** on graalians calling your supernatural beliefs silly.

This is a topic about why Isis does what it does; if you don't want depth or a conversation, then it isn't me with an ego problem for perpetually chiming in. You have nothing to say, why are you nosing around? To be seen, you just admitted.

Trivializing the essence of Graalians and calling yourself a ****** isn't a reflection on me; that is you. I saw your potential, but I won't fight for it, and you have no idea when I intend on leaving a conversation. It's my choice, my free will

The ego has nothing to do with passion; it is actually the opposite.