Posted by qes

Livid I spar so many people everyday in my gh and I never block or kick anybody unless there's a reason to. You were being an ass, anybody who was there saw you trying to troll me by constantly saying how my phone wasn't broken and how I was a liar when I was clearly freezing every 10 seconds for a long ass time. And u were saying I was freezing on purpose? Which makes no sense. Whatever regardless you were treated the way you were because you wanted to keep argueing about it and I didn't so I just blocked you and sparred somebody else who could wait for me to unfreeze rather then say I was freezing on purpose

You ended up kicking everyone, Im surprised you didnt catch on to the fact it was a troll, also everything I said made sense, you were in large denial of it regardless of it being true or not which lead you to say "That makes no sense" But its okay I was trolling, it was successful, bottom line I beat you in a series, it was fun, then you had to say those lines and I was told "yo you should troll him, he gets mad easy". I'm pretty sure you of all people wouldn't wait for anyone who was winning to unfreeze, seeing how you hit me twice the two times I froze the first time.

Posted by qes

I mean towering is fun and all but they should re do the system to make it more competitive and make it so members stay with the same guild. The whole 1k hours thing has gone on for too long.
Nothing wrong with PK if that's what your into, ATLEAST your not wasting time socializing with people you don't know irl all day long and never actually doing anything in graal.(like most of graal does)

I believe there was a thread based on a new towering system eventually being added.  

Posted by Relic

So QeS, want to enlighten us? Where did you get this completely flawed view of iClassic where every sparrer (especially the good ones,) were apparently massive assholes to eachother 24/7 and never communicated except to say "1v1"??? Because I'm really confused. And no, "QeS and a single digit amount of other people" is not indicative of the whole spar community.

Enlightenment
((From what i saw, hope theres some OG idev out there to vouch))
2009- short period, no guilds yet, mainly pking with {clans} in our names, everybody was exploring the small graal server because it was entirely new to us.
2010- new things always being released, houses, guild houses, guilds, towers, alliances, spar hats, ect.
everybody was generally so busy that they didn't have time to dwell on anything. SO much fun for us newbies. The spar life in 2010? Was to C-spar and wreck the 60+ noobs in the battle area. Back then it was all about siber, shinta, kevin91, ryo.. ect. 2010 was dominated by Japanese sparrers aswell, slight delay(not bad to rage about) + insane defensive skill. Then there was a whole different community of guild sparrers in 2010 in swamp, like frosty(fro), myself, killman, and ect. Guilds like SiB, Anubis, really dominated spar. While there were guild sparring guilds such as DoT.
2011- Age of Guild Spar and New techniques
People began advancing skills in spar, more prediction skills, a great time for spar where everybody was learning fundamental things.
2012- the Most intense period in my opinion.
2012 was a period where a **** ton of good sparrers really reached their peak at the same time, and comyt lead the leaderboards. He set an example for us, to be competitive and ruthless. SO many good sparrers had balls, and were trying to prove to everybody else that they were the best. Then PCs came which added even more frustration and the spar areana was a huge battle zone of people challenging eachother, and wanting respect. GST added to the crazyness of it all, but on the off seasons everybody still 1vs1'd alot trying to be top dog.
2013- GST became the only thing people cared about.
Many good idev sparrers quit or went inactive. Most of them only to log on for the gst, which was changed to every season, not month, which caused the spar activity to die. And the new players joining graal after 2013, did not show the same interest in the spar community as most players did in 2011/2012.
To me, I've just seen a slow decline in competitive sparrers untill GST time.

Posted by Livid

You ended up kicking everyone, Im surprised you didnt catch on to the fact it was a troll, also everything I said made sense, you were in large denial of it regardless of it being true or not which lead you to say "That makes no sense" But its okay I was trolling, it was successful, bottom line I beat you in a series, it was fun, then you had to say those lines and I was told "yo you should troll him, he gets mad easy". I'm pretty sure you of all people wouldn't wait for anyone who was winning to unfreeze, seeing how you hit me twice the two times I froze the first time.



I believe there was a thread based on a new towering system eventually being added.

No. i wanted to series you, and your VIS click had to come. When i kicked you, i just kicked your click. And i knew you were trolling and i didn't want to argue with a troll any longer so i blocked and kicked u. If u want to re series ill be here, otherwise u can stay trolling idc

Posted by contego

Everyone who becomes the best always told themselves they were the best, so he wouldn't be far off.

But here's a fun fact for Qes who mentioned Warhawk (WH). Around 2006-2007 WH used to run around UN saying he was the best at sparring in the spar room with a BTK tag on. I begged Hardkore (HK) to let me kick him cause he made us look bad. HK wouldn't let me, so eventually I said if he is going to stay in he had to agree to get trained by me and other leaders on how to spar. Back then ratings were 1100 for the low and 2100 for the high. WH had 1450-1550.

Graal has been around for quite sometime, in fact it's one of the very first mmorpgs that was graphic based, ever. There have been many great and talented people at sparring that none of us might have heard of who are equally or possibly better than some people we think are bests. It's all opinions it doesn't matter, just try hard and spar if you want but remember to try to have fun and enjoy it too, with others. =p

If it was my choice, people would be judged by their abilities to consistently win, how badly they want to win, and how often they spar. I think anybody who isn't down to spar should be seen in the community as a 'Graal City Chatting noob'. Instead our reputation is based off of how nice we are, how mature we are(on a video game), how many GSTs we win, and ect. All bs stuff in my eyes. ((not that winning a GST is bs, just thats not a big compliment to the individual, its a compliment to the guild/Team. Unless the team/guild was carried, then its an individual compliment to the people who carried the team))  

I like to spar. I like to socialize.  

^ + hugs.  

^/longdistancehug  

haha ilu hmong /longdistancehug  

Im not against socializing hmong. Im against people who spend much more time socializing then they do playing the Game (pk, spar, events, ect), Unhealthy to make long distance friends all day on graal and be detached from real life. When instead you could spar for an hour, talk for 15 minutes, then log off.  

Posted by qes

Im not against socializing hmong. Im against people who spend much more time socializing then they do playing the Game (pk, spar, events, ect), Unhealthy to make long distance friends all day on graal and be detached from real life. When instead you could spar for an hour, talk for 15 minutes, then log off.

You created an alternate personality based on an arachnoid superhero so that people would look at you differently. Are you sure you're in a position to judge their health and attachment?  

Posted by Thallen

You created an alternate personality based on an arachnoid superhero so that people would look at you differently. Are you sure you're in a position to judge their health and attachment?

Ha, well I picked the breast super hero xena.  

Posted by Thallen

You created an alternate personality based on an arachnoid superhero so that people would look at you differently. Are you sure you're in a position to judge their health and attachment?

in 2011 i was 12/13. I thought it was cool being able to make a new account and being able to do anything you want on it. o well.  

O boy  

Posted by qes

Enlightenment
((From what i saw, hope theres some OG idev out there to vouch))
2009- short period, no guilds yet, mainly pking with {clans} in our names, everybody was exploring the small graal server because it was entirely new to us.
2010- new things always being released, houses, guild houses, guilds, towers, alliances, spar hats, ect.
everybody was generally so busy that they didn't have time to dwell on anything. SO much fun for us newbies. The spar life in 2010? Was to C-spar and wreck the 60+ noobs in the battle area. Back then it was all about siber, shinta, kevin91, ryo.. ect. 2010 was dominated by Japanese sparrers aswell, slight delay(not bad to rage about) + insane defensive skill. Then there was a whole different community of guild sparrers in 2010 in swamp, like frosty(fro), myself, killman, and ect. Guilds like SiB, Anubis, really dominated spar. While there were guild sparring guilds such as DoT.
2011- Age of Guild Spar and New techniques
People began advancing skills in spar, more prediction skills, a great time for spar where everybody was learning fundamental things.
2012- the Most intense period in my opinion.
2012 was a period where a **** ton of good sparrers really reached their peak at the same time, and comyt lead the leaderboards. He set an example for us, to be competitive and ruthless. SO many good sparrers had balls, and were trying to prove to everybody else that they were the best. Then PCs came which added even more frustration and the spar areana was a huge battle zone of people challenging eachother, and wanting respect. GST added to the crazyness of it all, but on the off seasons everybody still 1vs1'd alot trying to be top dog.
2013- GST became the only thing people cared about.
Many good idev sparrers quit or went inactive. Most of them only to log on for the gst, which was changed to every season, not month, which caused the spar activity to die. And the new players joining graal after 2013, did not show the same interest in the spar community as most players did in 2011/2012.
To me, I've just seen a slow decline in competitive sparrers untill GST time.

So you're saying the iDev community pre-"PC players on iClassic" were a bunch of huge assholes? I have a feeling not everyone will appreciate that. If that's not what you're saying, then you haven't answered my question yet.

Posted by qes

If it was my choice, people would be judged by their abilities to consistently win, how badly they want to win, and how often they spar. I think anybody who isn't down to spar should be seen in the community as a 'Graal City Chatting noob'. Instead our reputation is based off of how nice we are, how mature we are(on a video game), how many GSTs we win, and ect. All bs stuff in my eyes. ((not that winning a GST is bs, just thats not a big compliment to the individual, its a compliment to the guild/Team. Unless the team/guild was carried, then its an individual compliment to the people who carried the team))

Good thing It's not up to you then, Graal would be boring if I weren't allowed to use any keys other than '1' and 'v' while my chat bar is opened.

I'd like to take this seriously, but I'm too busy chuckling at how hard you're trying to dictate what people should consider fun in a video game (you've made the point that It's just a video game multiple times yourself). Make sure you PM me when you tell everyone you've been trolling the whole time so I can come read the reaction.  

Posted by Relic

So you're saying the iDev community pre-"PC players on iClassic" were a bunch of huge assholes? I have a feeling not everyone will appreciate that.

If more competitive, constant ruthless winners, makes them assholes than ok.

Posted by Relic

Good thing It's not up to you then, Graal would be boring if I weren't allowed to use any keys other than '1' and 'v' while my chat bar is opened.

I'd like to take this seriously, but I'm too busy chuckling at how hard you're trying to dictate what people should consider fun in a video game (you've made the point that It's just a video game multiple times yourself). Make sure you PM me when you tell everyone you've been trolling the whole time so I can come read the reaction.

Have nothing against Socializing ((about the game)), just think as players, we should play the game by pking, events, and spar rather then sitting around all day and talking. And this is about my opinions. Im hoping to just inspire people to be more competitive in playing the game rather then talking all day. If it was up to me,everybody would have the mental drive to be the greatest in anything they do on graal. Whether its pk ( my opinion- xenthic/EP/ ect)
or Spar ( my opinion- PC: brett, thallen, jack, david, WH, colosus. Idev- Kevin91, comyt, to now.. sarah i guess.)
or guild spar (idev- killman, kentaro, fro, noss, ect)
Just wish people were more active in... competitively doing things. Don't see why its wrong for anybody to say "Hey I'm better than you, series me and I'll show you"  

You take this game way too seriously lighten up and have some fun  

Right now we are all socializing