Qes's spar opinions - 10

rickclops · 12-08-2015

Posted by Thallen

I think this right here is the root of your problem. You seem to think that anyone and everyone should be required to drop what they're doing and service you immediately when you request a spar or a series... You seem to think that sparrers that you listed, like Brett, Jack, David, Dante, and Sarah, have something to prove to you when it's actually the other way around.

It's like if Jared Cunningham were to jump off of the Cavs bench and say, "PLAY ME 1-ON-1 RIGHT NOW" to LeBron James... If you were worth sparring then people would probably spar you. Work your way up or something. Break the streak record. Win a GST. Consistently beat good sparrers. Force people to spar and acknowledge you by queuing.

At the end of the day, people are going to do what they want. If so few good sparrers are sparring, I don't see how you aren't dominating. Based on what I see on the iDevice leaderboard, it's the exact same people sparring actively and dominantly.

This is the best post in the thread.

I'd also like to point out Inco as one of the most improved sparrers. I'm impressed.

Thallen · 12-08-2015

Posted by contego

Can you explain how they worked? =o

It worked the exact same as spar rating from PC Graal... The GS leaderboard still uses it.

There was a glitch that allowed players to constantly reset their deviation to /350 and cheat to #1. It was abused a ton. Aside from that, it basically encourages you to selectively spar when you're ranked high. When I was 9000+, I'd get +2 points for beating anyone and -100 for losing to #2.

You could also get ranked high on alternate accounts. It took about 30 spars to get ranked. It took over a week to hide from the leaderboard due to inactivity. After a week, all you had to do was spar a single time and you'd show again... A good player could sit at #1 by sparring probably 100-200 times the entire season. A bad player could do the same if they know the glitches and were selective enough.

I was #1 on the PC side of that leaderboard for probably 90% of the time I actively sparred through 2012-2014. It was clearly more reflective of skill, that's never been the argument, but it came with a ton of other problems.

Zetectic · 12-08-2015

Posted by Thallen

I'd get +2 points for beating anyone and -100 for losing to #2.

true but u had 9000+pts

@contego

if you had over 7000+ pts you gain +30 for winning, -100~150 for losing unless the opponent had higher pts than you.

old leaderboard was very jumpy. one day thallen is #1, the next day eko becomes #1.
u can just tell by screenshots that thallen has and the leaderboard tables i saved on my blog.

september 2013
march 2014
just look at the last person's rating pts. the glitch affected the whole leaderboard and i didn't include some boosted accts that had 700-100 with 7000~8000 pts.

Thallen · 12-08-2015

It was good, it just had problems
They could easily bring it back if they dropped the dependency on rating deviation and if the camping rules were a little more severe

Even if they did, it isn't going to do anything, it'll be the same thing as what happened when this leaderboard came out (hype, dies out after first season, back to same ol')

Red · 12-08-2015

Qes you aren't close to the top 100 of all time let alone top 250-300 (neither am I that is for sure) I feel like you have finally lost your mind after the amount of shrooms and weed you consume on the daily.

People like you is what give sparring, the people posting on this threads favorite activity a bad name.

Going by your logic: Curse everyone who does not spar and didn't spar when 1000 people or less played on the server.

GOAT · 12-09-2015

Posted by OG

People like you is what give sparring, the people posting on this threads favorite activity a bad name.

Posted by OG

Agreed, You're a true legend of this game David.

I think comments like yours makes the spar community look worse than Qes' delusional ideas of how players should spar. Respecting is one thing, and idolizing someone like a burger joint noob idolizes adimans is another.

Posted by OG

Going by your logic:

Going by your logic: Robert Horry is a true legend. Nikka got more rings than Kobe, Duncan, and the dream Hakeem.

MikvaGraal · 12-09-2015

Posted by GOAT

I think comments like yours makes the spar community look worse than Qes' delusional ideas of how players should spar. Respecting is one thing, and idolizing someone like a burger joint noob idolizes adimans is another.

Going by your logic: Robert Horry is a true legend. Nikka got more rings than Kobe, Duncan, and the dream Hakeem.

He just tryin too get in alumi lol giv him some slack

qes · 12-09-2015

prove.. what
I mean thallen says I feel like people have something to prove to ME. i never said that, I just think the whole spar community should be Pro-spar rather than Pro-chatt all day until GST. All I really have been saying. New Leaderboards would be nice and so would prizes but with or without them the spar community should spar.. a lot..
Also thallen, I have nothing to prove to anybody like you claim I do. Nobody has anything to prove to anybody but themselves. If somebody wants to be one of the best they need to prove it to themselves.
trololo
And Anybody saying I'm not top 100 must be holding onto long lost friends that quit graal over a year ago, because I'm clearly top 100, and any of the active 100 sparrers who I haven't mentioned can come prove it to me, I'm fair about who's better than me.

When I tell you there aren't 100 active sparers on graal right now that can beat me in a series, i mean there aren't 100. Maybe 50 and thats me being nice to you guys just so you don't say "OMG LOOK WHAT QES SAID ON THE THREAD"

Rather than say that, say "series me" in the game, unless your one of the people who i mentioned being better than me then you don't have to.

In my mind I'm clearly top 100 whether I accept challenges or not. And if I lose to 100 different people I would gladly come back and say "never mind!" but since I posted this thread I've series'd close to 20 people and lost to three people, Skull(hopefully I can tie it, he's allowing me to a rematch, even if he didn't he has me beat as of now ;)) and Hmong(was 10-9 and I've beaten him before in a series so we're even as of now ;))
and Brett(as of now, jk that might take me a few years.

rickclops · 12-09-2015

This server should have shield 3 speed and more hearts by now. You can't gain as much of a life and skill advantage as you would in a pc graal spar match. Also, just getting .5 behind on iClassic can be really hard to come back from vs some people with delay here.

Aguzo · 12-09-2015

Posted by rickclops

This server should have shield 3 speed and more hearts by now. You can't gain as much of a life and skill advantage as you would in a pc graal spar match. Also, just getting .5 behind on iClassic can be really hard to come back from vs some people with delay here.

As if those matches don't take long enough, you want them to take longer?...

I don't know anyone who would want to play "let's see who can keep more hearts" for hours.

James205 · 12-09-2015

Posted by Aguzo

As if those matches don't take long enough, you want them to take longer?...

I don't know anyone who would want to play "let's see who can keep more hearts" for hours.

I would like more hearts, speak for yourself.

Thallen · 12-09-2015

More hearts would result in a lot of people having way better and way worse ratios. It'd put a lot more separation between sparring records. I hate sparring for 6 hits because it's so inconsistent and random. It seems like there's a buttload of sparrers around the 2-4:1 ratio range.

Red · 12-09-2015

I sparred on the pc client a while back and I found it a little harder but spars don't really take forever to complete even tho its 13 hearts.

Aguzo · 12-09-2015

Posted by James205

"I don't like your opinion, so speak for yourself, but I can state mine"?

Yeah, then all the matches can take even longer.

This is how it would work out.
Once the delayer gains the advantage, they will stay back, and wait for you to rush them, so they can gain even more advantage.

Whenever I fight a delayer, it's either get the first hit, or pray that they aren't forcing lag too.

Imagine streak room with more hp. No thank you.

Isn't iclassic and client the same speed? I think staff have said this already.

qes · 12-09-2015

with more hearts you can spar more ballsy and offense knowing if something goes wrong you got more to fall back on and clutch

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Thallen Enguard & Alumni Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 5,773	It was good, it just had problems They could easily bring it back if they dropped the dependency on rating deviation and if the camping rules were a little more severe Even if they did, it isn't going to do anything, it'll be the same thing as what happened when this leaderboard came out (hype, dies out after first season, back to same ol')

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Red Banned Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Australia Posts: 3,255	Qes you aren't close to the top 100 of all time let alone top 250-300 (neither am I that is for sure) I feel like you have finally lost your mind after the amount of shrooms and weed you consume on the daily. People like you is what give sparring, the people posting on this threads favorite activity a bad name. Going by your logic: Curse everyone who does not spar and didn't spar when 1000 people or less played on the server.

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qes Registered User Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 732	prove.. what I mean thallen says I feel like people have something to prove to ME. i never said that, I just think the whole spar community should be Pro-spar rather than Pro-chatt all day until GST. All I really have been saying. New Leaderboards would be nice and so would prizes but with or without them the spar community should spar.. a lot.. Also thallen, I have nothing to prove to anybody like you claim I do. Nobody has anything to prove to anybody but themselves. If somebody wants to be one of the best they need to prove it to themselves. trololo And Anybody saying I'm not top 100 must be holding onto long lost friends that quit graal over a year ago, because I'm clearly top 100, and any of the active 100 sparrers who I haven't mentioned can come prove it to me, I'm fair about who's better than me. When I tell you there aren't 100 active sparers on graal right now that can beat me in a series, i mean there aren't 100. Maybe 50 and thats me being nice to you guys just so you don't say "OMG LOOK WHAT QES SAID ON THE THREAD" Rather than say that, say "series me" in the game, unless your one of the people who i mentioned being better than me then you don't have to. In my mind I'm clearly top 100 whether I accept challenges or not. And if I lose to 100 different people I would gladly come back and say "never mind!" but since I posted this thread I've series'd close to 20 people and lost to three people, Skull(hopefully I can tie it, he's allowing me to a rematch, even if he didn't he has me beat as of now ;)) and Hmong(was 10-9 and I've beaten him before in a series so we're even as of now ;)) and Brett(as of now, jk that might take me a few years.

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rickclops Studying for graalians Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Seattle Posts: 304	This server should have shield 3 speed and more hearts by now. You can't gain as much of a life and skill advantage as you would in a pc graal spar match. Also, just getting .5 behind on iClassic can be really hard to come back from vs some people with delay here.