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01-01-2016
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Deus Vult
Join Date: Oct 2014
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I like how antago/conquest actualy writes long stuff on graalians. While every other poster tries their best to write "witty" comebacks to receive rep. |
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cute frog
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Also, in regards to your other posts, let's assume these men have no family, and all think the same. None of them are willing to give themselves up. None of them make any contribution to society and are not willing to. Basically, they're all bland and the same. What do you do then? |
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Realistically some system of credit is necessary in dealing with human energy. Anyone who doubts the existence of God but believes in money is a hypocrite; money is specifically one of the highest proofs of the power of belief in the human spirit to work wonders. It inspires and uplifts people. However, again, what you have to understand is that someone somewhere is generating this credibility; it is not just a stereotype to call these people Jewish. They are; some Jews run the economy. Look at Alan Greenspan. Because people are relying on certain Zionist Jews for credibility, who are buying up the media—and already did over a hundred years ago including Hollywood—most people are oblivious to what is happening. In other words, your entire system of credit is being given in "gold stars" and "thumbs up" by a particular set of human beings exercising a particular bias belief system. In the same way that you wouldn't expect a Christian to go funding atheists, you can best believe that the Zionist Jewish economics have been meticulously designed to create Jewish superheroes throughout "history" by fabricated glory & press, push its beliefs onto the populace, create stigmas against being criticized, present themselves as an oppressed & unduly persecuted people (despite the fact that the Old Testament is paradoxically riddled with specifically Jews committing genocides in comparison to this claim), glorify the Jews, argue Old Testament values, aaaand eventually—demonizing Islam and asking you to go fight in Israel's war while calling it something else. Congratulations; every time you waste a single dollar you own or work your life away without understanding the spiritual warfare behind believing in an ethereal man-made credit system, you are giving power to no other than this "Jehova" elite; it's the trickle down effect. Now, the real Jehova is holy and goes by many names around the world; but there are varying Zionist economic groups who are comprised of men whose egos are so inflated by all the power that they use it to confuse & manipulate the masses, fund each other's interests, while playing God by making others dance to a dollar bill. They believe they are the chosen ones, and that God has given them mankind as their slaves; such is the power of the dollar, a manmade credit system run by individuals with families, friends, & spiritual beliefs. A good economic system will avoid allowing the generation of money to be put into the hands of a small people; as such, you will always end up with nepotism & spiritual bias—as well as mass confusion and war when the God complex inevitably hypnotizes & blinds them with the drunkenness and delusion of power as it pertains to the beliefs systems they are born into and their parents raise them with. The absolute lack of inheritance laws as well as the recruitment of individuals into printing money will always forge a brotherhood of individuals believing in supremacy and passing it off as something different, and making you too afraid to question or see its existence; additionally, this amount of power will always result in wars both from the immorality within the system itself due to the individuals' lack of poverty, but also fighting interests. Fighting interests will generally always be, again, groups of people forcing you to believe what they believe in; they create cults, people join them or are raised and indoctrinated into it as "religion" or "ethnicity", and they band together to overthrow and hoard power. Many Christians have been trying to do it, Muslims, Buddhists, KKK. It's a basic concept. Divide, conquer, band together, and control; of course an ethnically elitist group of people run your economy. That's the only kind of people who COULD due to the way it works at present. Human beings are full of decisions every day; most people would tell you that they value family more than anything and leave their inheritance to their children (which is egotistical, bias, and ethnically supremacist). Thus, you exist in a racial supremacist society. What many call "sympathy for an oppressed people", I call lazy and uneducated. The only true religion is Humanity; all else is subject to criticism, evil, deception, and destruction. Judaism isn't at all oppressed, and comes in many forms; I'm seriously not sure where people are getting their information, but the get-out-of-jail-free card for any Jews is an agenda, and most of their cult is racially bias and ethnically committing genocide on the Muslims. What we need is to get rid of is all cults and have only ONE HUMANITY. But alas as long as there are no laws prohibiting inheritance, there will be no equality, no truth, and no democracy. An ethnically bias cult will run your lives but keep the truth of their evil away from your immediate consciousness. Democracy is a fluidly revolving cast of players, and they rely on media notoriety & money to market themselves. Thus, whoever runs your economy & the media—and, again, due to inheritance laws they are one and the same (your Zionist Jews)—will eventually run all of your laws and rig your democracy by brainwashing you into being so superficial that you'll vote for their prostitute players, not question it, and spend a great deal of time fighting for it. This prevents revolt, and keeps the people believing that their lives are actually aligned with true divine justice. The vanity of the system glorifies itself, brainwashes the people into believing "they are a superiorly free nation" and their government is flawless; to continue the illusion, the media & government scapegoats other countries publicly & recruits the populace to obsess with this arrogance, as well as stirring up mayhem & mischief to generate false evidence, and push for world domination. This doesn't mean that there are no places worse off than us; I'm simply saying that this system is itself a prison of the mind & a terrorist regime. Additionally, with the media power provided by having no inheritance laws in capitalism, you will be brainwashed into believing that "conspiracy theorists are crazy nut lune jobs we should beat down, laugh at, and compare to deludanoid schizophrenics". You're playing in a bully's court. The kinds of people you're ****ing with aren't ****ing around; they aren't sitting around coming up with the next creative Mario. No, the kinds of people this system favors are a racially supremacist group of immoral jackals who are looking for the "Holy Land" and exploiting inheritance laws to get there; they are obsessed with finagling real world resources for fun, your thoughts & beliefs, etc. because not enough people are questioning or overthrowing them. It is the nature of the mechanics of the universe; the economic system you are in is creating it. Did you know that North America is actually half as tall as it is portrayed on most maps? Seriously, go look up the height of the United States compared to Africa in miles. The maps are intentionally, as another agenda, distorted to keep you enslaved to arrogance & patriotism. You are truly living in a tyrannical state; no ruler should be paid for his service, and there should be no inheritance laws. But so long as you continue believing in inheritance laws, and biting the dangling worm of greed (the promise of working hard and making "a ton" of money)—you will be a slave; this is has been going on for so long that it's almost impossible to live modestly—and everyone is a 9-5 slave or a part-time indentured servant (wage slave) & consumer. What most call success in this country is actually indulgence & greed; the pigs are so hideous looking from their lack of self-control that they require prostitute "actors" & "models" to re-enact their agendas; this is why you have body-dysmorphia, because appearances are being used to cover up the real truth and only sluts who like to dangle their legs on the street corner possess the archetype to perpetuate the veil that covers fat greedy racist degenerate assholes. The body dysmorphia is really just their career; they leave you feeling so ugly inside and hating yourself for sales & perpetuations of corrupt systems, as well as breaking each other's hearts & whoring yourself out that we've become nothing but a storehouse of consumers, wh0res, and military men. Again, as I said before: What did the origins of the theater tell us? Gladiators (military men are recruited these days like gladiators, promised glory & money), actors, dancers, and models are prostitutes; they are empty vessels of godless people who can be used as toys/puppets. That is what a prostitute is; it is a vessel of darkness that sells itself for power rather than upholding its own sanctity & life for consensual, peaceful & productive purpose. Yet, you are coerced into "hoooonoring" these people. This is another agenda. Planned obsolescence is part of the agenda (products made to be useless **** in 2, 5, 10 years); it keeps the consumerist, greedy, slutty, racist society oiled. We have all the technology & brilliance to invent water powered engines, go solar powered, have wireless electricity, lightbulbs that never burn out, simple clothing like robes made to last, etc. But, instead, planned obsolescence, marketing, stupid fashion, and obsession with vanity items & consumerism (drugs, potent refined foods that mess with your chemicals and keep you addicted) feed into the frenzy of enslavement. Instead of realizing what's happening, people assume this is the way things should be … But it's a prostitutes haven; people obsessed with trying on new clothes, belts, hats, patterns, textures, perfumes, showing themselves off, "looking hot", being flirty, charming (calling it professionalism), idle talk ("small talk", calling it good social skills), and screwing around (calling it monogamy & dating), fighting. You are being programmed to be distracted slaves & toys for war
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but all I wanna do is play graal what should I be doing
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01-01-2016
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Play Graal when you feel it; but know the truth. No more cults (anyone who claims that by allegiance to a group or lineage you "are a chosen one") … And this doesn't mean going secular, either. No more inheritance laws, and no more giving money to your kids. All resources should be monitored by appointed experts while children have a say so on their particular needs for evaluation, etc.; do away with affluenza, do away with vanity, do away with planned obsolescence, and do away with economic transference to dependents. If you want to do something, believe in this for a start. I'd also think that there needs to be a lot more limitations on television, radio, etc. It's pretty much a monopoly right now and it's loaded with evil. I'd also say get rid of celebrityhood, porn (prostitution but it's "on camera" so it's completely different right?), and awards. No one should be awarded, honored, etc.; glory belongs to God. The private ownership of capital and also the privatization of specialized services needs to be removed; a lot of our taxes are being wasted paying road development companies or other services of the city. Realistically people don't work for desperation of resources; this is a myth. People don't have to work, or they can finagle resources in an endless array of possibilities. People don't do things for money, and most work is just busy work. Things like road construction and such could be done by volunteers. Most construction & services are again created with planned obsolescence to keep the bull**** carousel of slavery going round and round, distraction, consumerism, vanity, sex, and war; thus, the world feels like a cheaply mass-produced picket fence & pad of notebook paper. Artistry, meaning, purpose, and authenticity have been conned & commercialized; society has been designed to keep people busy, vane, heartbroken, lusty, afraid, and absent-minded: It is a trick. Truthfully if you want something done, it is a lot easier to get it done right the first time and done beautifully—and to find volunteers for it (because contrary to popular opinion, people actually enjoy creating—you know … Doing stuff, especially when they aren't forced to spend all their time going to 9-5s or other part-time jobs)—than if you are forcing people to slave away with chump change building roadways, cars, clothes, utilities, items, and other things designed to deteriorate. It's because a bunch of assholes are pulling strings who shouldn't be. They create "dreams" and "keeping up with the Joneses" to keep you distracted and running on hamster wheels; they sell you fake glory, and promise you opportunity, riches, and beauty if you do this or say that or believe this, or beat this person. It isn't real. And the media is a huge ****ing agenda; it could be on there encouraging people to be more Christ-like and to donate efforts IF THEY WANT TO to get things done. Television should be more localized; instead it's a political monopoly and used to sedate you into, again, enslavement, distraction, yearning, feeling like ****, & war. They want you to believe that money is in deficit and that everyone needs paid paid paid. It's the false Luciferian god. It isn't true. Look at the allegory of Lucifer; he was who? The first "angel" and he thought he was so beautiful he rebelled (he stopped evolving) for control (power). Who runs the economy? The Zionist Judaic worshipers; what is Judaism? Read its writings; it claims itself "the first instance of God". Angels are gods; it is another term. The first "god" thought himself so beautiful that thousands of years later he crucified the messiah to retain power, continues worshiping as "God" ("Jehova"), and runs the entire ****ing economy especially in love with capitalism (the love of things/root of all evil). Angels are groups of people in the terrestrial realm; we are the cells in their blood. So, the earthbound fallen angel who runs the world is a group of Zionist Jews who, believing their god (themselves) too beautiful to be holy, all encompassing, and accepting of their own messiah—instead killed Him to retain power and now they are creating fake glory in the media to remove all Christlike qualities which would eradicate their supremacy & control. Such is the Luciferian riddle; the money is a sham, and so is their ethnic elitist bull****. They lose, and Christ's true Spirit has been oppressed because it creates a Holy world—not one run by racists. If we would balance things out, cut costs, change the economy, institute certain limitations & uproot a lot of the evil in the economic system, etc. you could create a utopia of people who donate efforts simply because it's fun to and they want to say, "Hey! I did that!" Instead people dread their accomplishments because they have to wake up every ****ing day and go build more and more and more and more for some dude who barely cares about them just to feel "worthy" as a human being. It's the same principal with Graal; the second money got involved, the power was seized and the game stopped evolving. It hasn't changed much at all in 15 years, because money & power are run by greedy pigs who want to keep people busy—not who know how to revolutionize or manage something. They're gluttons
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(☞゚∀゚)☞ dank meme ☚(゚ヮ゚☚)
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Is there a difference between syndicalism and co-ops? I find the local co-ops to generally be waaaay better than corporate-owned and most privately-owned businesses in terms of quality and mission. Looking at the Wikipedia page for syndicalism, apparently a form of socialism, I see anarchy mentioned for one particular implementation, which is stupid because government needs to exist to arbitrate competing interests, and by extension delegate it in some way and enforce it in some way. Whether any form of government does a particularly better job at any of those tasks in comparison to other forms of government is another question. I consider pure anarchy to be to government what pure capitalism is to economics. All of the purist philosophies of economics suck. If the government isn't involved (capitalism), it isn't a government. If the government doesn't exist (communism), there's no means of arbitration in case of conflict. If the government controls all means of production (socialism), it's no different from capitalism, but instead every nation state is its own enterprise. So I'm in favor of a mixed capitalist/socialist system. I'm not quite sure where Conquest is coming from with his Zionist rant. You'd have to ignore the fact that individuals have their own thought processes and make their own decisions, and also conclude that nobody else ever shares a similar thought processes or makes similar decisions, to come up with that kind of opinion. > Divide, conquer, band together, and control This is what Bob Marley refers to as the ism-schism game in Get Up, Stand Up, btw (@2:45). Maybe we should all go Rastafari, but the you'd have to accept Haile Selassie I as the reincarnation of Jesus. |
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I am the second coming; the Fisher King and the Holy Graal, the victory horse and overcomer of evil. Believe in me, and I will create harmony.
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Communism and socialism are where a society needs to be. This capitalist nation is an utter egoist nightmare and indistinguishable from hell; they sell egoism and selfishness as "freedom", as if everyone is in need of it. But it's just a bunch of markets competing and tempting each other then stirring up mayhem and chaos. Everything you hear about socialism and communism in the "mainstream" media is political brainwash for a racist society who enjoys toying with the citizens. It is run by the devil himself
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You can't do **** in this country without a family, love, or money. I'm not sure what you mean by "living comfortably". I've wanted to die every day of my life and it takes all my strength to stop myself from collapsing, ripping my wrist open, and letting it all go |
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Join Date: Nov 2011
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http://fee.org/freeman/why-socialism-failed/ This is a great article for anyone who hasn't read it already. It tells why socialism doesn't work and capitalism does. To summarize, this article has three main points: (1) prices determined by market forces, (2) a profit-and-loss system of accounting and (3) private property rights. Capitalism is based on the theory that incentives matter. Socialism is based on the theory that incentives don’t matter. Forgive me, for I will be doing a lot of copy/pasting. Mostly just of the most important points. Prices Let's start with what it says about prices determined by market force in a capitalist society. It uses an example of how oil prices can help the public understand the scarcity of the resource based on how much it costs. The information transmitted by higher oil prices provided the appropriate incentive structure to both buyers and sellers. Buyers increased their effort to conserve a now more precious resource and sellers increased their effort to find more of this now scarcer resource. The only alternative to a market price is a controlled or fixed price which always transmits misleading information about relative scarcity. Inappropriate behavior results from a controlled price because false information has been transmitted by an artificial, non-market price. Market prices are the only way to transmit information that will create the incentives to ensure economic efficiency. Profits and Losses Socialism also collapsed because of its failure to operate under a competitive, profit-and-loss system of accounting. Under central planning, there is no profit-and-loss system of accounting to accurately measure the success or failure of various programs. Capitalism rewards success and penalizes failure. By rewarding success and penalizing failure, the profit system provides a strong disciplinary mechanism which continually redirects resources away from weak, failing, and inefficient firms toward those firms which are the most efficient and successful at serving the public. A competitive profit system ensures a constant reoptimization of resources and moves the economy toward greater levels of efficiency. Unsuccessful firms cannot escape the strong discipline of the marketplace under a profit/loss system. Competition forces companies to serve the public interest or suffer the consequences. Private Property Rights A third fatal defect of socialism is its blatant disregard for the role of private property rights in creating incentives that foster economic growth and development. The failure of socialism around the world is a “tragedy of commons” on a global scale. The “tragedy of the commons” refers to the British experience of the sixteenth century when certain grazing lands were communally owned by villages and were made available for public use. The land was quickly overgrazed and eventually became worthless as villagers exploited the communally owned resource. If everyone owns the same property, then people act as if nobody owns it. When this happens, people stop tending to the property. Public ownership encourages neglect and mismanagement. Since socialism, by definition, is a system marked by the “common ownership of the means of production,” the failure of socialism is a “tragedy of the commons” on a national scale. Much of the economic stagnation of socialism can be traced to the failure to establish and promote private property rights. TL;DR - Capitalism works, socialism does not. |
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Communism is also doomed to never work because of human nature. You can't expect somebody within a group of people to not want more or wish for bigger. |
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Money is an involuntary ghost-mechanism of impulse; in capitalism, it is finagled by the unethical, kept, and any sneaky & vile act of seduction & temptation will be utilized to aggressively bully others into believing in false success & value. The evolution of economics therefore has rewarded unethical swindlers; they manipulate people who mean well, and without having any talents of their own or are born into inheritance—become very lazy and for absolutely ever unmerited reason in the world in total control of power over others because the entire system falsely presents cash flow & ownership as success & power. In other words, give a million dollars to a prostitute or a thief who does nothing constructive with their labors—and they'll start investing with other likeminded bastards to create useless companies & hiring good people to perform services because they're desperate for $$ not for changing the world into something better. Someone finds an entirely soulless worthless piece of art and decides to use the power of marketing & economics, real-estate (museum venues), and so forth to glorify "artists" because they want to **** them—or, they find the artist's sex appeal draws in visitors; it happens all the time. I work in marketing. I know how and why people pick the procedures they pick, the people they pick, hire them, etc. Power is a precious commodity, and unfortunately in capitalism there is no qualification for owning money nor penalty for owning too much; it's all about whoever can swindle it. In the course of time, the most unethical greedy men will band together and swindle all the "power" because the system allows for it; truly good people do not live from a place of trying to make extreme $$$ and power—thus are toppled by racists & swindlers, prostitutes. Historically, presently, and forever this will be true. In other words, you don't need a democracy when you have money; you can essentially buy laws, sway public perceptions, and manipulate the entire country by a completely impersonal representation. Money in capitalism is about as indicative of an inner person's worth & success as a person's outer appearance; your logic has caused many suicides, and much more attempted. Money is not a representation of success; in fact, it rarely is. The most inspired people are good people; that is, the reward for being a good person is having soul & divine inspiration. God does not reward evil. However, capitalism rewards business & swindling, greed, & stinginess; it makes the good people desperate (those who spend their time developing ethics, morals, love, intellect, art, equality, and ideas). In order to be rich you pretty much have to be born into it or such a loser that all you do is fight for it all the time; you better believe the most talented are seen as threats, and they aren't spending their time becoming rich. Instead, they are meditating & developing their inner self, their creative talents, etc.. Capitalism is all about creating hamster wheels for good people to keep the evil ones fulfilled in their carnal pursuits & controlling everything. They call it "business", I call it a bunch of deadbeats with unmerited power because, again, money is impersonal; they continue to brainwash others with language & value reward systems for being slaves or small-talkers who get nothing accomplished but allow losers to run businesses they have no business running. To keep the evil charade going they must present capitalism as a representation of success, equality, demonizing other systems as flawed and collapsing. But, there are success stories all around the world; capitalism's greatest bull**** product is itself. |
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