Posted by TWIZ

This seems like a terrible idea, wouldn't it be more plausible to just make it harder to get the current ZC?

I seen a player with 100k zone coins.

zone coins isn't rare anymore.  

Posted by John98

I seen a player with 100k zone coins.

zone coins isn't rare anymore.

Aren't*

Honestly ZC was never meant to be rare... I mean just based on its actual presentation with crappy hats in the store, I actually like how us players did something for once without staff consent.

Zc itself is useless. People forget that. I have every zc item in the game and over half the melees. Is there a point? Do I get satisfaction of having pixelated items:0? Like honestly yes there's some hats I want because they look good ON ME. But I don't need to collect them. As for guns I own like 6 but only use 2. I think that people just use ZC for collecting but in the long run that doesn't affect like 80% of the players since rue things you do need are relatively kept at the same price point(unless they get stat changes)

Posted by John98

Zone coins should be removed from missions and showdown.
Like i told Alex and FriedRice, let's add a new type of event coin
that is more hard to get. we can make the item rare.

Also Nerf alien blade and buff the other melee's.
also add melee shops instead of having every melee being release on holidays.
also plasma Sabre is the only melee i see that's good for it's price and sells in a shop.

Again, I think that the system we have works... Not only that, but there's been talks by high staff to get rid of ZC. But everytime the same conclusion appears; it's too late. Trading is more than just basing that can be changed and nobody cares... UNTIL YOU REMOVE SKYBASES #ADDTHEMBACK... Or people get over it, people would be so agitated for having collected zc, etc etc for no reason once they're removed from trading.

Lastly, geno m8 calm down. Eat a snickers. What'd I say about not working while you're hungry? Yes every melee needs to be buffed. But that doesn't mean that the current best shouldn't still be the current best. They should get competitors(like fr I need some lone dual blade love.) but the alien knife should always be the kill sword and the saber should always be the spam sword. Remember when they ruined the rippers? Now it's the most circulated gun in game... And its cheap... And its weak. I want to use other weapons. I really do. But don't change the whole game because of it. Like you could make the lone dual blade 1 more dmg than the sabre(but slower; in the end make it the same dmg but add some effect to it- honestly I feel like that would make it worth its price) and chances are I still would use the sabre. Why? Nostalgia. Skill. Don't forget that every weapon needs mastering. You can make a weapon as much dmg as you want, but when it comes down to it you'd have to remaster a weapon which a majority of players won't do.  

We just need new active admins  

Zc shop is one of those shops where most of the cool stuff is in but the prices are a bit high but it's not impossible to get them. And once you buy the weapon it should be worth it.

Also: maybe add weapons that are EARNED like a system of how much you kill with a certain weapon may get you an upgrade or something like that  

Posted by Kismo

We just need new active admins

Yes.  

It's easier said than done to get good staff... The applications for every dept. are open... If you're qualified, apply. It's difficult, especially for zone, to try to find mature, qualified, and active applicants.  

Posted by John98

I seen a player with 100k zone coins.

zone coins isn't rare anymore.

Making a new currency isn't going to solve anything, tbh. Eventually Zone coins will be spent, and more people will join the server (hopefully). Making a new coin will also cause havoc in the economy.  

Posted by TWIZ

Making a new currency isn't going to solve anything, tbh. Eventually Zone coins will be spent, and more people will join the server (hopefully). Making a new coin will also cause havoc in the economy.

there should be an event coin currency for only event items that are untradeable. The ZC would still remain the trading cuurency, it would basically become what you discussed as a trading point since ZC could not be spent on anything else. I really hate every idea related to fixing the trading system because none of them are going to solve the issue, just cover the damages.  

Yes yes, currency is a big deal bit it isn't a priority for the Zone at the moment. As I've said many times before, I think that Zone needs to focus on things like the tileset, updating some of the hideous graphics, a complete overhaul of the staff team (some staff are useless) and some weapon balance. Once you guys have that under control, then you can reinvent the currency, or even fluctuate it.  

Skt what are you talking about, why would i buff the melees but make the best ones not the best anymore?

And yeah, we need a new currnecy, i have stuff planned for this new currency, but you cant just add it in and expect it to work itself out, it needs to be worked around. @gitaz, yeah it is a priority, because having basically every gun available to you when you join is a major issue. The shop guns shouldnt have been tradable, the zc shop stuff were supposed to be hard to get but now arent due to zc being tradable, and the gun balance is pretty off now due to all the end game guns so easily available, if this keeps up, the game will be nothing but ripper/alien/rail spam within a short while. Stuff has to be worked for, there has to be a sense of effort put it and accomplishment when you get it, making everything super easy to get makes a game get dull pretty fast. Adding a new currency and restricting certain items from being tradable will work, but it has to be done right, cant just shoehorn things in and expect it to work cuz thats what zones been doing and its been a mess.  

Posted by Skt A. Sangue

Aren't*

Honestly ZC was never meant to be rare... I mean just based on its actual presentation with crappy hats in the store, I actually like how us players did something for once without staff consent.

Zc itself is useless. People forget that. I have every zc item in the game and over half the melees. Is there a point? Do I get satisfaction of having pixelated items:0? Like honestly yes there's some hats I want because they look good ON ME. But I don't need to collect them. As for guns I own like 6 but only use 2. I think that people just use ZC for collecting but in the long run that doesn't affect like 80% of the players since rue things you do need are relatively kept at the same price point(unless they get stat changes)

Again, I think that the system we have works... Not only that, but there's been talks by high staff to get rid of ZC. But everytime the same conclusion appears; it's too late. Trading is more than just basing that can be changed and nobody cares... UNTIL YOU REMOVE SKYBASES #ADDTHEMBACK... Or people get over it, people would be so agitated for having collected zc, etc etc for no reason once they're removed from trading.

Lastly, geno m8 calm down. Eat a snickers. What'd I say about not working while you're hungry? Yes every melee needs to be buffed. But that doesn't mean that the current best shouldn't still be the current best. They should get competitors(like fr I need some lone dual blade love.) but the alien knife should always be the kill sword and the saber should always be the spam sword. Remember when they ruined the rippers? Now it's the most circulated gun in game... And its cheap... And its weak. I want to use other weapons. I really do. But don't change the whole game because of it. Like you could make the lone dual blade 1 more dmg than the sabre(but slower; in the end make it the same dmg but add some effect to it- honestly I feel like that would make it worth its price) and chances are I still would use the sabre. Why? Nostalgia. Skill. Don't forget that every weapon needs mastering. You can make a weapon as much dmg as you want, but when it comes down to it you'd have to remaster a weapon which a majority of players won't do.

All you just doing is complaining about sky base, i'm not staff on iZone, bug someone else with that.



"Honestly ZC was never meant to be rare... I mean just based on its actual presentation with crappy hats in the store, I actually like how us players did something for once without staff consent."

What's the point of having zone coins at all?
that would mean you can get free guns without really trying.
They are better then shop weapons.

Posted by TWIZ

Making a new currency isn't going to solve anything, tbh. Eventually Zone coins will be spent, and more people will join the server (hopefully). Making a new coin will also cause havoc in the economy.

Making a new Zone coin shop won't help.
Only so much you can do and not much time.  

Posted by John98

All you just doing is complaining about sky base, i'm not staff on iZone, bug someone else with that.



"Honestly ZC was never meant to be rare... I mean just based on its actual presentation with crappy hats in the store, I actually like how us players did something for once without staff consent."

What's the point of having zone coins at all?
that would mean you can get free guns without really trying.
They are better then shop weapons.



Making a new Zone coin shop won't help.
Only so much you can do and not much time.

I wasn't speaking to you at all.

I'm skt- I speak to everyone.

But na.

Complaining is the way to do it.

And as for the zc, the zc was made for some sort of prize us players can have which would lead to weapons. We as players decided to make it abundant. Remember that.

The way I see it, ZC is kind of like any other item on classic. It's fun to have. Not useful to store. And honestly it really should be that way.

I'm a grindy guy. I beat the Yugioh world tour. I like the uphill battle. But for a game like zone where the only advantages come from weapons... Such system shouldn't be in place.

Like on delteria okay. On Albion okay. But I feel that for ANY game where everyone becomes equal at a point around a week of playing, the whole system to disregard new players is kind of just dumb and pointless.

Either start it off all equal and keep it that way or make it so you can be so op that you're account had to set by the game creators to a certain jump level because you could dash through the entire map in one step.(Not to brag or anything... But I'm taking all the credit for the new levels system on Albion mk)

Like it's more of a nuisance at that point for new players.

Espc in a game that's open world for everyone with no safe caps- like all those noobs that we kill for streaks probably end up never lasting on zone because they realize how the game is "advanced" and they will never reach that level so they quit even though its ez as pie.

I forgot where this is from but Gabe N. once said that he tried to make all of his work simple enough so it doesn't turn off any new people because of the peaks. And its worked for him. And he's rich. So Graal do this.

Like fr even era has gone down. Why? Old players quit and new players feel intimidated so they don't stay on the game.

Now look at classic which has never significantly dipped... Oh yea... Everyone is equal... :0 omq if only there were some data to explain this  

Inflation of ZC was bound to happen, especially because it's tradable.
Either a new currency needs to be developed that you can trade in 3 ZCs for 1 Graal Coin (or whatever it will be) and all ZC items are now bought with the GC, or ZC needs to be completely removed. I think the first one would be more logical and appropriate and will flow better with the players as they are the ones changing their ZC not the staff.  

Posted by Platinum

Either a new currency needs to be developed that you can trade in 3 ZCs for 1 Graal Coin (or whatever it will be) and all ZC items are now bought with the GC

What the hell would that do? Instead of too much ZC you're gonna have too much of the new currency.

They shouldn't remove ZC, instead they should fix it. The way it's distributed has always been a problem.  

ZC ruined events. Shouldn't even be related to events. ZC basically already acts as a trading coin that can only be used for trading, since most people already have whatever they want from the ZC shop. No one hardly gets ZC to buy those items anymore. That being said, there would be no problem to make ZC's only use for trading... As long as players don't get smart enough to realize ZC is worthless, lol.