Posted by Milo

Custom 1k hats are already very time consuming and players do message admins repeatedly asking when it will be uploaded, was it reviewed yet etc. Similarly, although it's just a minor edit, players are very likely to wait for a day or so then start asking why their hat isn't uploaded yet. There are different time zones and everyone has a life outside the game. The gfx admins aren't online 24/7 to attend to your needs and wants so overall, just my opinion, hat edits shouldn't be allowed.

I'm sure 90% of People who actually won a GST hat would be happy to wait a week or so if there allowed to get there hat minor edited to what they wanted, I know I sure would for both of my hats.  

Posted by Livid

Leah isnt in charge of that stuff, and far from getting fired lol.

Tell it to 'em liv  

Posted by alexx

I'm sure 90% of People who actually won a GST hat would be happy to wait a week or so if there allowed to get there hat minor edited to what they wanted, I know I sure would for both of my hats.

That's not exactly what they're saying, though. Everyone is happy to wait a week to get their 1k hat uploaded, but people still spam every hour on the hour asking about their hat. I'm not defending that reason behind not allowing edits, although I still don't think edits are a great idea. It depends I guess. But I'm just explaining what was actually meant behind the reasoning for people spamming admins for their hat.  

Can we fire Leah and Fulgore from admins and Colin from forum mod...maybe then the gs hats might be fixed...There is definitely a clear correlation between the two.

Also I deeply agree with PigParty everything he has said makes sense...he makes great ans solid points backed up with solid evidence...I hope PigParty continues posting his ideas on the matter because I for one think they're truly amazing and deeply make me understand why edits aren't allowed.  

Posted by Kuz

Can we fire Leah and Fulgore from admins and Colin from forum mod...maybe then the gs hats might be fixed...There is definitely a clear correlation between the two.

Also I deeply agree with PigParty everything he has said makes sense...he makes great ans solid points backed up with solid evidence...I hope PigParty continues posting his ideas on the matter because I for one think they're truly amazing and deeply make me understand why edits aren't allowed.

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Posted by Kuz

Can we fire Leah and Fulgore from admins and Colin from forum mod...maybe then the gs hats might be fixed...There is definitely a clear correlation between the two.

Also I deeply agree with PigParty everything he has said makes sense...he makes great ans solid points backed up with solid evidence...I hope PigParty continues posting his ideas on the matter because I for one think they're truly amazing and deeply make me understand why edits aren't allowed.

Sorry to get off topic but, personally I think Colin is a great moderator, more or less. Sure sometimes we may be angered when he deletes our threads or posts, but not everyone is perfect. His judgement overall isn't really that bad, and he does the job often instead of occasionally. I'm sure s lot of you might recall the influx of try hard trolls/spammers signing up to the forums and constantly ****posting (ex: paceman)

A lot of times his actions are justified, even if we feel otherwise at the moment. Perhaps if he were a bit more lenient with what he deleted and allowed some things to go on for a little longer it people would hate on him a little less. I mean lets be completely honest, who doesn't enjoy the occasional flamewar once in a while?

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Posted by PigParty

Please don't drag actual politics onto Graalians (or in the off topic chat).  

If you guys think Graalians moderation is strict then you haven't used many other forums.  

Posted by Chelterrar

Please don't drag actual politics onto Graalians (or in the off topic chat).

To steer more off topic than you already did after it already was prior, that had nothing to do with actual politics. That's just the most well-known slogan. I didn't mention politics at all, unlike you. And to bring this back to topic: GST hats being edited is a mess. If that were to happen, they might as well let you make your own hat as the prize, and that also shouldn't happen (and I believe someone said it also won't?).  

Posted by PigParty

To steer more off topic than you already did after it already was prior, that had nothing to do with actual politics. That's just the most well-known slogan. I didn't mention politics at all, unlike you. And to bring this back to topic: GST hats being edited is a mess. If that were to happen, they might as well let you make your own hat as the prize, and that also shouldn't happen (and I believe someone said it also won't?).

Agreed...what kind of stupid idea would it be to have people choose hats they like to be uploaded instead of hats given to them by staff...PigParty I don't know why everyone disagreed with you in this thread...you shoot straight facts man.

Once again I'd like to come back to my earlier point...the GST hats problem are because of Leah and Fulgore whom are both admins and also Colin...These 3 are the masterminds behind the bad gst hats...so take it up with them everyone.  

For hopes sake, you guys know kuz is trolling... right.  

When the polls are 50/50 and majority who voted no are admins with the exception of Rufus in the yes column.  

Posted by Yog

People don't seem to understand that you're getting 6 hats tailored to you by the graphics team for every GST. I don't think you guys know how time consuming making those hats are, and now you expect us to do edits to them? You get to see the hats before you sign up so you know what you're going to be playing for. If you don't like the hats then don't sign up.

If you guys think 1K is easier then why don't you just stick to 1k hats instead so you get exactly what you want?

I'm a tell you what my problem is with these type of responses.

A lot of people like me see you (don't know you outside of graalians) as an irrelevant player that probably spent most of his time brownnosing his way up the food chain for a staff position. I get it, you might think you're important and feel that you're in a position to tell players to suck it up or stop playing. I can easily tell you that if you don't have enough time to volunteer in graal you should leave your position, but that's not the point.


What most of you non-competitive(aka the noobs that never left the burger joint phase) players don't understand is that players that bring stuff up do it because they want to make the server better. If you don't agree with the idea say why and leave it at that. No need for take it or leave it responses. The end goal is to improve the game play experience and not having a pissing contest between staff and players.



OT: I feel edits should only be done to fix hats, but don't see why 1st place winners couldn't have the privilege of uploading their own hat. All classic staff has to do is watch the spar arena to see what type of hats players like for inspiration.  

Posted by GOAT

I get it, you might think you're important and feel that you're in a position to tell players to suck it up or stop playing.

I'm not telling anyone to stop playing. I'm the one busting my ass off to get 2 GST hats done in just one day only to have every player **** all over them

I'm telling them that being entitled to an opinion is totally fine, but an opinion is an opinion.

I don't even get the point of you guys wanting custom hats for GST. You say you don't want to tower because you won't receive as good as a reward, but you're wanting the exact same reward.  

Posted by Yog

You say you don't want to tower because you won't receive as good as a reward

no one says that