No More 1k Hats? - 6

Fulgore · 05-10-2016

Posted by Lockdown

Does this mean towers will be removed entirely, with this new system? Or will the new system work around towers and whatnot?

99% sure towers, or some form of towers, will stay and the reward system will still deal with it all.

Thallen · 05-10-2016

Posted by Alex R

I don't see why people care more about the hat than the journey , probably because no guilds offer a really good journey anymore , just same old same old

TBH, I thought people exaggerated the thirst for the hat. This new one-month time limit seems to really show how important it is for most people though. If you look at a guild like Talon right now, which will probably be the last 1k, it's just a ragtag group of people trying to get their hands on the hat. I don't blame Talon for recruiting any of them and trying to reach his goal though, but it's surprising to me that people are really that willing to invest a month of time for an item with a bunch of randoms.

If there was ever any doubt that there is some "hat chasing" phenomenon, this month definitely proves it. People seem to join guilds not by preference, but by their own judgment of their chance to obtain the hat. Once that is changed, I'm sure guilds will function a lot better.

McCullough · 05-10-2016

Posted by Thallen

TBH, I thought people exaggerated the thirst for the hat. This new one-month time limit seems to really show how important it is for most people though. If you look at a guild like Talon right now, which will probably be the last 1k, it's just a ragtag group of people trying to get their hands on the hat. I don't blame Talon for recruiting any of them and trying to reach his goal though, but it's surprising to me that people are really that willing to invest a month of time for an item with a bunch of randoms.

If there was ever any doubt that there is some "hat chasing" phenomenon, this month definitely proves it. People seem to join guilds not by preference, but by their own judgment of their chance to obtain the hat. Once that is changed, I'm sure guilds will function a lot better.

One of the reasons I decided not to tower. No more loyal guilds anymore, and the system is exploited, like so.

Marshmallow · 05-10-2016

Who knows what is next....always exciting

Thallen · 05-12-2016

Towering will be a joke in about 5 days, doesn't seem like anyone is interested in doing it "for fun" and 3 of the last 4 1k guilds will have finished by that time... Shouldn't be hard to get 60+ hours/daily with mediocre members during a time like that

UU · 05-12-2016

Posted by Thallen

Towering will be a joke in about 5 days, doesn't seem like anyone is interested in doing it "for fun" and 3 of the last 4 1k guilds will have finished by that time... Shouldn't be hard to get 60+ hours/daily with mediocre members during a time like that

Thats the biggest issue for me.
Towering was SO much fun. Late 2010 up until I'd say 2013.
Constant attacking guilds and pkers.
Since early 2013 its like towering has slowly being strangled to death and all the LAT/Devs have done is mess around doing dumb stuff to the towers.

Thallen · 05-12-2016

Guilds like BFM and Assertive were stupid to give up so early, there will be 0 competition after the 16th or 17th and I think they could have easily made it, maybe still can

Macbeth · 05-12-2016

Posted by Thallen

Guilds like BFM and Assertive were stupid to give up so early, there will be 0 competition after the 16th or 17th and I think they could have easily made it, maybe still can

I heard that Illusive will be pk'ing all of the other guilds after they hit 1k. To try and stop them from hitting 1k.
Maybe I am wrong though. Just something I overheard.

Nanner · 05-12-2016

Posted by iMac

I heard that Illusive will be pk'ing all of the other guilds after they hit 1k. To try and stop them from hitting 1k.
Maybe I am wrong though. Just something I overheard.

That would be funny. I'd join and do that lol.

Colin · 05-12-2016

Posted by iMac

I heard that Illusive will be pk'ing all of the other guilds after they hit 1k. To try and stop them from hitting 1k.
Maybe I am wrong though. Just something I overheard.

Synx had it as their guild news and some are helping Illusive, so there will probably be some members that do it but to my knowledge is not a guild activity Illusive is planning on doing. (a lot of them are dedicating a lot of time into finishing this month, kinda a **** move IMO to do something like that)

I still feel like people will constantly recycle guilds and just get the quickest hat reward possible over and over if they have the chance.

The current state of guild hats is in my opinion sad, I can understand some people having a few 1k hats especially the older players who were in actual guilds that towered to tower but now it is like a competition to just see which set of players can farm the most 1k hats, it's at the point where receiving a 1k hat is not a guild hat anymore because there is no guild part to it, just a tag a group of players can use to get another hat and then leave.

I haven't towered at all (aside from Illusive now) besides EPiC MiGHT years ago because of this, I personally don't see the point of joining a guild and dedicating 1,000 hours to get something that isn't even meaningful to half the people in the guild, I'm hoping the new points system changes this and allows family guilds and other guild-types like PK guilds a chance to just get rewarded for loyalty or playing different aspects of the game together as a guild.

Always thought it would be neat if there was a leaderboard that displayed the guilds with the most combined PKs/BKS.

Thallen · 05-12-2016

Posted by iMac

I heard that Illusive will be pk'ing all of the other guilds after they hit 1k. To try and stop them from hitting 1k.
Maybe I am wrong though. Just something I overheard.

I'm not doing that, seems senseless and will ultimately fail... Like I said, by the time we finish it'll be just Talon with 6 towers to themselves. I'd have to really dislike someone to want to do that to them anyway, I don't really know anyone in Talon.

Macbeth · 05-12-2016

Posted by Colin

The current state of guild hats is in my opinion sad, I can understand some people having a few 1k hats especially the older players who were in actual guilds that towered to tower but now it is like a competition to just see which set of players can farm the most 1k hats, it's at the point where receiving a 1k hat is not a guild hat anymore because there is no guild part to it, just a tag a group of players can use to get another hat and then leave.

I haven't towered at all (aside from Illusive now) besides EPiC MiGHT years ago because of this, I personally don't see the point of joining a guild and dedicating 1,000 hours to get something that isn't even meaningful to half the people in the guild, I'm hoping the new points system changes this and allows family guilds and other guild-types like PK guilds a chance to just get rewarded for loyalty or playing different aspects of the game together as a guild.

Yeah. I am hoping for the same thing. There are certain guilds Cough* Ohana Cough*, who kicked a majority of their leads who helped on the restart after they finished and recruited their friends onto the hat list. It has become more about how many hats one can get, and less about the group and teamwork.
At first I did not agree with the guild update and now the towering update, but now I see exactly why they are changing it. My experience with Ohana is probably not the first time this has happened. I am just hoping it will make guilds more close knit, and provide a rewards system that leaders cannot take advantage of over their members.

Zetectic · 05-13-2016

#TBT http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12052
i was going through some old thread and found this. lol @replies. i guess he can't expect to get a 1k hat which he worked for.

Macbeth · 05-13-2016

Posted by Zetectic

http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12052
i was going through some old thread and found this. lol @replies. i guess he can't expect to get a 1k hat which he worked for.

Pretty much. Makes me happy that players like Light from Ohana will not be able to use their leads as a personal 1K hat dispensers so that they can just give it to their friends.
This update will hopefully fix this problem, and make guilds more about teamwork and a family. Instead of a group of backstabbing individuals that will do anything to keep their spot over another.

Zetectic · 05-13-2016

Posted by iMac

Pretty much. Makes me happy that players like Light from Ohana will not be able to use their leads as a personal 1K hat dispensers so that they can just give it to their friends.
This update will hopefully fix this problem, and make guilds more about teamwork and a family. Instead of a group of backstabbing individuals that will do anything to keep their spot over another.

that's the question i wanted to ask. will this update gonna meet our expectation?

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Marshmallow Is Going Bananas Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Somewhere on Graal Posts: 164	Who knows what is next....always exciting

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Thallen Enguard & Alumni Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 5,773	Towering will be a joke in about 5 days, doesn't seem like anyone is interested in doing it "for fun" and 3 of the last 4 1k guilds will have finished by that time... Shouldn't be hard to get 60+ hours/daily with mediocre members during a time like that

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Zetectic Bloodvayne Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 4,087	#TBT http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12052 i was going through some old thread and found this. lol @replies. i guess he can't expect to get a 1k hat which he worked for.