Posted by Thallen

The point isn't "guns can't kill people," no **** they can. The point is that people who want to kill will find ways to do it, regardless of how accessible a gun is.

If the one who killed Christina used practically any other weapon, I'm sure it would've played out differently for the better. Not to mention the one who tackled him didn't have a firearm, and even if he did at that point, it was too late.  

For example. In Germany we don't shoot the people that enter out property for no reason. You can also Google on how many bullets the police uses here a year and how many people they actually kill. We know what guns can do and guns are a horrible horrible thing. Guns are not in the American constitution but of course the NRA and most republicans lay it out as if it is. There is no word in the Constitution stating "every American, no matter if a criminal or not, may own a gun and shoot people"

In addition Obama tried to issue background checks. So people who are mentally disturbed and criminals wouldn't be able to buy guns legally. But hey. Of course it got voted down. I'm pretty sure most of Europe is disgusted by your love of guns  

Googles something, claims it's true, then punctuates the statement with, "Not everything you see on Google is true"
I can't argue statistics with an idiot, sorry, come back when you learn how to properly read a graph and we'll try again

Posted by Crono

thallen if you dont think gun ownership is an issue in the US then i dunno what to say

That's not even the argument. People not taking statistics into perspective is gross and stupid to me.

We are far above every other country in the world in guns per capita, yet our intentional homicide rate is on par with or even lower than many first-world countries with less than 1/4th of the guns we have. Why is that? People act as if a homicide committed by a gun would not have happened if the gun didn't exist.

What taking away everyone's guns might do is prevent these mass shootings, but there are other steps that should be taken before that. How about not giving guns to radical Muslims or mentally ill people?

Posted by Yog

If the one who killed Christina used practically any other weapon, I'm sure it would've played out differently for the better. Not to mention the one who tackled him didn't have a firearm, and even if he did at that point, it was too late.

He walked up to her, she opened her arms to hug him, and he shot her... You know how many different ways she could have been killed?  

Posted by Thallen

Googles something, claims it's true, then punctuates the statement with, "Not everything you see on Google is true"
I can't argue statistics with an idiot, sorry, come back when you learn how to properly read a graph and we'll try again

He's trying to prove that there's false information on Google. How ****ing thick are you?

Posted by Thallen

He walked up to her, she opened her arms to hug him, and he shot her... You know how many different ways she could have been killed?

He shot her multiple times. Anything that could do the same amount of damage in such minimal time wouldn't be as easy to conceal.  

I actually checked my sources on where I got my data from. And here is another thing. That's the actual number of gun owners in Germany. And we have about 80 million people. I don't see those 30 % there. And that are the actual numbers that we count cause we know who has a gun legally and who doesn't. 1,4 million out of 80 million. I'm sorry but I don't even see 5 %

 

Why is this guy awkwardly personalizing the conversation to himself and Germany? No one cares about Germany and the argument isn't relating to Germany or even specifically highlighting Germany and their guns. You have other problems to worry about, like your awful chancellor admitting millions of undocumented Muslims and ruining your country.

If you're arguing that Germany has even less guns than was reported, THEN YOU'RE LITERALLY SUPPORTING MY ARGUMENT? Are you dense?

The graph, which has its source literally posted on it, is to show that there is not nearly as many intentional homicides in the USA compared to other countries in correlation with our guns per capita. It's really, really easy to understand.  

Our chancellor is offering an open door to thousands of people who are fleeing from war and terror. What do you wanna do? Shoot them? Send them back? Disgusting  

Posted by Thallen

Why is this guy awkwardly personalizing the conversation to himself and Germany? No one cares about Germany and the argument isn't relating to Germany or even considering Germany and their guns. You have other problems to worry about, like your awful chancellor admitting millions of Muslims and ruining your country.

To show that your graph is wrong, because you're the one comparing homicide rates to other parts of the world, which would include Germany.  

Germany has a gun ownership of about 2 % and less. The homicide rate is the lowest on the graph.

And also. You should know that people actually get documented. Of course every Country has illegal ones too. But what do you wanna do. Build a wall with a sign "don't come in illegally" you think that will change anything? No!  

Posted by Chelterrar

Germany has a gun ownership of about 2 % and less. The homicide rate is the lowest on the graph.

Posted by Thallen

If you're arguing that Germany has even less guns than was reported, THEN YOU'RE LITERALLY SUPPORTING MY ARGUMENT? Are you dense?

You're genuinely stupid, aren't you?  

I'm saying less guns causes less shootings and homicides. So actually get some gun laws in the states  

Posted by Thallen

You're genuinely stupid, aren't you?

At this point you're literally just nit-picking.  

Posted by Thallen

That's not even the argument. People not taking statistics into perspective is gross and stupid to me.

We are far above every other country in the world in guns per capita, yet our intentional homicide rate is on par with or even lower than many first-world countries with less than 1/4th of the guns we have. Why is that? People act as if a homicide committed by a gun would not have happened if the gun didn't exist.

What taking away everyone's guns might do is prevent these mass shootings, but there are other steps that should be taken before that. How about not giving guns to radical Muslims or mentally ill people?

Despite what folks say, the US is -THE- first world country. It's the ****ing pinnacle of civlization as we know it. It should be expected to have very low homicide rates. Without guns do you not think it would have much less? The US is currently satured with firearms, making it too easy for them to fall into the wrong hands.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._homicide_rate

It's not acceptable for the US to be ranked so badly.  

I'm gonna leave this thread before I actually have to vomit about your inhuman opinion of other cultures and victims of war. You're fear of terror makes you blind. Like religion is something that makes people different. Yes there are Muslim terrorists. But there are also Christian ones. And I bet every religion actually has some. A religious groups has been blamed to often before. You first wanna start by not giving them access to your country. What then? Burn down all Muslim shops? Put them into special camps? Yeaaaa like that worked out. Seriously. Your sickening me.  

Posted by Chelterrar

I'm saying less guns causes less shootings

Brilliant statement... And less bombs cause less bombings, and less knives cause less knifings, whoo!

You know what else causes less shootings? Not being the country with the most mental health problems in the world. The guns do not jump up off the rack and shoot people on their own. The mental health issues that plague the US is what is killing people.