Ry has been 200 rocked jailed like 5 times. Still abuses bugs.

He pays people to do them for him.

If someone's going to cheat the system, it's funny to think that they wouldn't cheat it after they're caught.

I miss regular bans. My 2 month ban on Classic in 2009 changed the way I saw Graal.

That made me stop being a prick k. If I was told to mine back then like we do now, Id finish it ASAP and then do what I was doing before.

2 months is a long time. I've seen people finish rocks in like two days. (then again this was before we could just make alts ez... So yea)

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Posted by Yog

There's not enough evidence to suggest that it works. "Maybe" isn't enough of a reason to stray from a method that is commonly used and has been proven to improve player's attitudes.

Nothing is 100% due to the individual so "maybe" is a valid reason still. And this is why i suggested to use both systems, too many flaws by just going with one, ban the little stuff and jail the big stuff and it'll be far more effective than just going with one  

Posted by GenoIndeed

Nothing is 100% due to the individual so "maybe" is a valid reason still. And this is why i suggested to use both systems, too many flaws by just going with one, ban the little stuff and jail the big stuff and it'll be far more effective than just going with one

"Maybe" would be a valid reason if there wasn't already a system that other servers and games use effectively. It's the major offenders that are more likely to evade a ban by creating an alternative account. Making the ban require labor is just going to give incentive to abandon the account.  

Well they shouldn't have done what they did, thats their fault  

Posted by GenoIndeed

Well they shouldn't have done what they did, thats their fault

I'm not trying to justify their actions. I'm trying to explain how the mining system doesn't give enough incentive to improve your behavior.  

Posted by Yog

I'm not trying to justify their actions. I'm trying to explain how the mining system doesn't give enough incentive to improve your behavior.

I get what you're saying but how does banning provide incentives to improve behavior? No one said mining rocks will prevent someone from evading jail, but them evading jail doesn't help them get unjailed. That's the point. Plus, mining rocks is a good deterrent because many people won't want to mine rocks.  

Posted by PigParty

I get what you're saying but how does banning provide incentives to improve behavior? No one said mining rocks will prevent someone from evading jail, but them evading jail doesn't help them get unjailed. That's the point. Plus, mining rocks is a good deterrent because many people won't want to mine rocks.

You have to find the perfect balance between a punishment, and having the player want their account back. Otherwise you're just going to have people who feel cheated by some sort of cheap gimmick of a suspension, and that won't give any sort of incentive to improve behavior if they've already abandoned their account. It's the same reason permanent bans are very rare.  

Posted by Yog

You have to find the perfect balance between a punishment, and having the player want their account back. Otherwise you're just going to have people who feel cheated by some sort of cheap gimmick of a suspension, and that won't give any sort of incentive to improve behavior if they've already abandoned their account. It's the same reason permanent bans are very rare.

Thats why i said do both. Also, no ones telling them to abandon their account, if anything that should be the least of the worries here. They should be happy theyre still allowed to play, even hackers usually only get jailed where other games would erase all your stuff. They still get to play, they have some work to do to make up for their wrong doing but thats all, if they don't want to take responsibility for their actions and act like an immature kid and quit, so be it, so be it, you can't blame the jailing system on that  

When somebody hacks on Albion we recruit them to the team.

But zone would never do that. Like when someone abuses the system they'd never get rewarded right? @ShadowAndHero #PewPew

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Posted by GenoIndeed

Thats why i said do both. Also, no ones telling them to abandon their account, if anything that should be the least of the worries here. They should be happy theyre still allowed to play, even hackers usually only get jailed where other games would erase all your stuff. They still get to play, they have some work to do to make up for their wrong doing but thats all, if they don't want to take responsibility for their actions and act like an immature kid and quit, so be it, so be it, you can't blame the jailing system on that

I explained in my earlier post why both systems wouldn't work. Also I never said anything about them quitting.  

Posted by Yog

You have to find the perfect balance between a punishment, and having the player want their account back. Otherwise you're just going to have people who feel cheated by some sort of cheap gimmick of a suspension, and that won't give any sort of incentive to improve behavior if they've already abandoned their account. It's the same reason permanent bans are very rare.

permanent bans are non-existent in zone. Pandavi has been perma banned a couple times, then the manager feels bad and unbans him. As if him stealing accounts multiple times isn't enough.  

Chelt have you finished the system yet?  

Posted by Frie D

Chelt have you finished the system yet?

I guess you haven't read the news?
 

Posted by Fp*

I guess you haven't read the news?

Sorry I'm to busy irk...  

Posted by Chelterrar

So, what keeps them from playing on a noob account when they are suppose to be hammering?

I'm still not unbanned bro