Posted by Darkk

Never skyped you (you claim this is where I said that), don't know why you keep brining this up, a failed troll.

Only ever sparred you in our series

once again not trying to participate in a "my word vs. your word" argument when we both know i'm right unless you're actually worse off mentally than we all think you are. sending prayers for you man.

also for anyone taking this list seriously please remember that this is the same mental patient behind sour's incredibly inaccurate sparring rankings post earlier this year.  

Posted by Void

Of course I can pull something like that, as I was more or less a mere spectator this GST, but a spectator still judges (like in pretty much every other "spectator sport") and is allowed to do so.
Ofc there's a job in a team, though I don't really see "Distractor" or "Bodybag" as legitimate roles.
Thallen was crucial in the finals, You admit Yourself, so why would it be unjust to say that he carried (Holy)?
Why would it matter if he carried others harder btw, that doesn't change the fact that he carried You
Blaming the other team's composition is the most bull**** excuse I've ever heard.

You don't see "distractor" as a legitimate role, yet arguably the best player on your team has played that role in Alumni GST's previously. Here's the link bottom of the page Void: http://www.clandestine.pw/team-compositions.html
It isn't unjust, but you didn't mention Thallen carrying Holy in terms of an MVP context, that would be correct. But you're attacking me in the sense that Thallen carried me hard and I get praised for that (your original post said this)? I have reason to believe that because you mentioned my role as being "illegitimate".

Why would it matter if he carried others harder? Because you're accusing me of getting carried and receiving praise, yet I specifically remember him carrying other teams much harder. You're here scrutinizing me specifically for whatever personal vendetta you have against me, when there are other people he has carried in finals. You know at this point in his Graal career, he's probably had to shoulder a lot of teams and people, yet you're trying to undermine me?

I made no excuse about my hits, if you read carefully I remember specifically saying I didn't play well in the finals but felt I made up for some of it by being there helping in the end. And of course team composition matters, there's plenty of people on this thread mentioning the lack of proper team composition with Shaheen, Abood, Inco, and Fro. It's not an excuse, it's just fact. Also, if you read the link I sent you above, look at the team composition aspect of GS. The team I entered with before this past GST was much more balanced, and as such I didn't have to do much, just played how I normally would and managed to get a decent hit ratio. This past GST, I was playing much more conservative than I normally would, and as such my share of hits were eaten up by my more aggressive teammates.  

/closethread  

Never skyped you.
You sparred in what 2013? I didn't spar until 2015, if I did before it was siderooms. To my knowledge I never sparred you until our series, giving me a 2.5:1 ratio on you.  

Posted by super kurosaki

/closethread

Are you crazy? This is the best thread ever  

Idk why the losing teams sub is calling out John tbh. Not sure why he cares that John ditched a guild 6 months ago, old news- move on

This cringe thread>rps thread  

Posted by Incognito

agre with mikva this list is even worse than thallens

This is dark's opinion. Let him live in his world. And you do you.  

RPS Thread > This thread


Less toxic players  

Posted by Alex R

inco and fro aren't at their best going ultra defensive

Were they under the impression that the players who had won 3/4 of the last GSTs would change their style to accomodate the players who had won 0/4? That guild just had poor leadership. I had told the iDevices two months before the GST that it's a huge mistake to give the losers of that team any voice over the winners. Very generous of Abood to give them a chance though.  

Posted by Thallen

Were they under the impression that the players who had won 3/4 of the last GSTs would change their style to accomodate the players who had won 0/4? That guild just had poor leadership. I had told the iDevices two months before the GST that it's a huge mistake to give the losers of that team any voice over the winners. Very generous of Abood to give them a chance though.

?? what happened? what was the angry name?  

Posted by DoubleliftGraal

This is dark's opinion. Let him live in his world. And you do you.

nobody likes you lol  

Posted by Ryu/John

You don't see "distractor" as a legitimate role, yet arguably the best player on your team has played that role in Alumni GST's previously. Here's the link bottom of the page Void: http://www.clandestine.pw/team-compositions.html
It isn't unjust, but you didn't mention Thallen carrying Holy in terms of an MVP context, that would be correct. But you're attacking me in the sense that Thallen carried me hard and I get praised for that (your original post said this)? I have reason to believe that because you mentioned my role as being "illegitimate".

Why would it matter if he carried others harder? Because you're accusing me of getting carried and receiving praise, yet I specifically remember him carrying other teams much harder. You're here scrutinizing me specifically for whatever personal vendetta you have against me, when there are other people he has carried in finals. You know at this point in his Graal career, he's probably had to shoulder a lot of teams and people, yet you're trying to undermine me?

I made no excuse about my hits, if you read carefully I remember specifically saying I didn't play well in the finals but felt I made up for some of it by being there helping in the end. And of course team composition matters, there's plenty of people on this thread mentioning the lack of proper team composition with Shaheen, Abood, Inco, and Fro. It's not an excuse, it's just fact. Also, if you read the link I sent you above, look at the team composition aspect of GS. The team I entered with before this past GST was much more balanced, and as such I didn't have to do much, just played how I normally would and managed to get a decent hit ratio. This past GST, I was playing much more conservative than I normally would, and as such my share of hits were eaten up by my more aggressive teammates.

There's a difference between playing as an effective bait and just running around spilling your spaghetti all over the gs arena.
You are contradicting Yourself a lot. You got carried by Thallen, like a lot of other people. Brett got carried harder than You, for example, but You got carried (in my opinion) nontheless.
I didn't disregard team composition, I deem it as an important factor. What I deem stupid though, is that You complained about an unbalanced team, which is something that's relatively easy to fix. That's why it's a bull**** excuse to use other team's compositions as an excuse, when You had the chance to form a balanced team as well.
"i made no excuse about my hits" [...] "i was playing much more conservative than I normally would, and such my share of hits were eaten up by my more aggressive teammates." I get what You're saying, but don't say You're not making excuses and then name excuses.
I may have attacked You indirectly with my first post, although it wasn't exclusively about You.
At this point I said everything I wanted to say. Peace  

Posted by Void

There's a difference between playing as an effective bait and just running around spilling your spaghetti all over the gs arena.
You are contradicting Yourself a lot. You got carried by Thallen, like a lot of other people. Brett got carried harder than You, for example, but You got carried (in my opinion) nontheless.
I didn't disregard team composition, I deem it as an important factor. What I deem stupid though, is that You complained about an unbalanced team, which is something that's relatively easy to fix. That's why it's a bull**** excuse to use other team's compositions as an excuse, when You had the chance to form a balanced team as well.
"i made no excuse about my hits" [...] "i was playing much more conservative than I normally would, and such my share of hits were eaten up by my more aggressive teammates." I get what You're saying, but don't say You're not making excuses and then name excuses.
I may have attacked You indirectly with my first post, although it wasn't exclusively about You.
At this point I said everything I wanted to say. Peace

Void you make no sense here's why:

1.) "Effective bait" and "spilling your spaghetti all over gs arena"? Lol what? Are you trying to say that even though I did a lot of the things that were praised in the clandestine link I sent you, I still did bad! Of course if the situation were to apply to someone you don't have ill attitude towards, this conversation would never happen.

2.) "What I deem stupid though, is that You complained about an unbalanced team, which is something that's relatively easy to fix." Never have I complained about my team being unbalanced, I knew it was unbalanced, so I took the role of just purely conserving HP the entire GST (believe it or not that's an actual thing Void). And I specifically mentioned this, and my role plenty of times.

3.) "I get what You're saying, but don't say You're not making excuses and then name excuses." I didn't get a bunch of hits the entire GST, I know that, even Thallen knows that and mentioned it in a website somewhere. I also know that the reason for that was because of my play style with the team I was in, and the manner of the team. It's not an excuse, it's a cause and effect.

4.) "I may have attacked You indirectly with my first post." Yeah no **** you were trying to target me, it's blatantly obvious at this point. You're clearly salty over something that probably has nothing to do with you.

Yeah if I were you I wouldn't post because you honestly don't even know what you're trying to defend here. All I can see from this is that you clearly despise me (I don't need to know why, I don't care why), but I recommend keeping that to yourself instead of mass venting it on a forum talking about how much Holy GST and I were "carried."  

just shut up lol  

Been caught up in school and work. Finally getting the chance to make my response to these dweebs, =Trigger warning=Its cute they have to hold eachothers hands to roast or make comebacks lMFao.

Posted by eko

Haha so funny, mentioned you because i knew you have some obsession with me. Good excuse but it doesn't change the fact you lost after talking so much **** Don't think there was much luck there since you just aren't good

Very ironic coming from you the guy who litterlly brought up my name you have to be the most deranged guy I have ever met.Apparently I'm "Obsessed" with you but you fail too keep my name out of your mouth wtf. This whole fued between us all started because I called you a sideroomer that selectively sparred that also boosted with daes alternate just too get the highest Rating, Really just too inflate your already huge ego.

Posted by eko

Are you sure you aren't gay by any chance if the idea of a girl showing something on cam is weird to you?

Coming from the clown that actually watches grown men wrestling in their underwear??

Posted by eko

- Creates like 5+ accounts to attempt to have a somewhat decent spar record so he can act relevant in the spar community
- Literally completely irrelevant sparrer that hasn't achieved anything (btw when are you gonna enter GST and show off those sick spar skills?)

The difference between you and me when I make a new account is because I'm banned and want too spar.
When you create a new account it's too avoid losing spars and lowering ratio of main account.
-Can't hold a decent spar record? Coming from the Guy who needed an ego boost by Selectively sparring and laming wins with dae on an alternate account, which is how you went from litterlly managing to get barely above 2-1 ratio pre-2013(which is terrible)
To be a good PC then was to be able to get a 4-1 ratio in Mixed you had a 9-2 ratio in sideroom

Posted by P1

@Mikva
Nice job dodging all the points fair points eko made about you and turning it into a personal attack, but I suppose that’s all you can do when you don’t have the mental capacity to formulate an actual response. You’ve literally only done well once in GST (iDev at that) and that was because Call felt sorry for you so he dragged your dead weight to 3rd place, pretty sure you did the worst out of anyone on that team too.

Not even a Gser Gg. Dae, If this tier list was actually serious both of you clowns would be lower.You(Dae) could possibly be the worst delayer skill-wize too place in GST, you litterlly provide 0 teamwork and you continue too prove your a serious liability too any team you Participate with.

Never understood why you guys even get on your high horses like you litterlly won 1 gst without Thallen out of how many times? 4? I never claimed to be a good GSer I personally think it's boring, but how hard is it to win a GST with 3/5 best mixed sparers on your team? Tbh any BA noob could replace you both and Alumni would still win.

Deity is arguably the 2ND luckiest Guild to win a mixed GST right behind northern signs let's be honest here..Besides I couldn't do GST it's on a Saturday night.Unlike you guys I'm not at home all day and have things to do

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