I have an idea, Explaining the rules before the event actually starts.
Before the people get into the actual event, in the announcement there should be prior rules said. So Miscommunication like this shouldn't happen in the future.

This problem is getting kind of out of hand, Since Coco explained what the rules are, We should accept it and we would just move on as of now. Also please have admins that are only for Events and assisting GPS in their works it would make their job a lot easier rather than handling both positions at once.  

Posted by Asaiki

I have an idea, Explaining the rules before the event actually starts.

i think there isn't a rule regarding how many times you can win events in a row  

Posted by tricklebean

i think there isn't a rule regarding how many times you can win events in a row

There is, But it isn't just publicize or announced that much that's why there are miscommunication happening.

As coco said, you cannot win the same hat or get a replacement once you won the hat.  

Because it's so hard to replace a hat you already own with X amount of gralats, duh uhh. (Or invent a new currency and remove individual rewards)

David has a point, stop being ignorant  

Posted by Sig.

Because it's so hard to replace a hat you already own with X amount of gralats, duh uhh. (Or invent a new currency and remove individual rewards)

David has a point, stop being ignorant

I like the idea of having a new currency for events only, Or I mistakenly understood this.  

Posted by Asaiki

There is, But it isn't just publicize or announced that much that's why there are miscommunication happening.

As coco said, you cannot win the same hat or get a replacement once you won the hat.

Oh MY DAYZZZ. If that rule was stressed and enforced more often, then there wouldn't be any problems. Yeah i guess ur right, no one rlly knows about that rule.

Dual should've informed nanner. I guess Dual didn't know that rule too, huh or otherwise he would've told him.  

Posted by Coco

lol what? No. We should award people for winning an event. We shouldn't reward people for outshining everyone else just to get a bunch of free hats that the event wasn't even being hosted for. That's like the equivalent dickishness of a full grown adult racing a bunch of 1st graders. You know you're better than everyone else at this game, congrats, you won your prize, now let everyone else have a chance.

That's how MMORPGs work. People take pride in becoming better players and being the best players. That's how it's always worked. The concept is to play the game to become the best until you're bored with it and move on. Then the new wave of "the best" comes in and dominates.  

Posted by David

You're constructing an argument on the basis that this ^ isn't a stupid rule.

If you're actually like.. comparing an NBA basketball playoff to graal then just lol @ you, cause graal isn't real life. No game is?

You see people being good at the game and constantly winning as a fundamental issue here (which I think is pretty mind numbingly ridiculous), coming on the forums and calling people names because they like being competitive on Graal and winning.

There's an entirely different side to this game than fashion shows and RC, get to know it and maybe you'll understand why people want to win as many events as they can.

Just because a certain player has won and has the event hat doesnt obligate the admin to give out a different prize.  

Posted by Reemas

Just because a certain player has won and has the event hat doesnt obligate the admin to give out a different prize.

Why not? The player won it fairly. I received a replacement hat before when I was playing Team Fort and Cliff Climber (both events take skills and a lot of time). If Coco or you do not wish for admins to give out different prizes then inform the staff members to state the rule before broadcasting an event and host less warper events.  

Posted by Reemas

Just because a certain player has won and has the event hat doesnt obligate the admin to give out a different prize.

Exactly, but it does happen nonetheless. That's a problem because it shows inconsistency in staff behavior.  

i play a lot of mount and blade warband, especially napoleonic wars dlc. and usually in servers like NRP whenever the admin is constantly switching the map or slaying people for no reason, we have terms like badmin, sadmin, madmin, gladmin. gaymin is one i've heard only once or twice. from now on, you should totally implement these terms based on how the admin is being. in the case of the person who started this thread, it was the case of a badmin. simple ****ty actions. he wasn't sad or mad. also wasn't glad or gay.

Posted by Coco

I'm surprised that happened...usually if you participate in an event where you already have the hat and win, you should get nothing because that's honestly kinda of a s**tty thing to do. I hate when people do that and don't feel bad at all for not awarding someone who wins an event expecting a replacement. You entered the event knowing damn well you had the hat and expecting to get a different hat if you win is really rude to the person hosting it and to the other players who wanted to win that didn't have the hat. so congrats on being a jerk lol.

As for Nanner's situation, considering it was a completely different hat he was competing for i don't get why he wouldn't get it if he won. Even if it was the same hat with multiple recolors i still wouldn't see the problem.
There's nothing i can really do about it though. I only wanted to comment because what Kai said really grinded my gears.

isn't that just really crappy left wing beliefs in a nutshell? he already had a version of the hat, so rather then excersise his 2% chance of winning, he should just ignore it?



he would have been oppressing other players had he got the hat.

Posted by Thallen

be careful criticizing GPs on here, they'll find some weird way to get back at you

or they could just ban you. that's not weird at all. pretty normal considering how things have been run lately.  

Posted by Asaiki

I like the idea of having a new currency for events only.

It would create a lot more effort for devs, but take it from Era, if there was some kind of event house and instead of being rewarded a hat for winning, you get points and can then use those points to buy hats from an event shop, it would likely fix everything, no need to remove warpers, no need to have page after page arguments about the "proper" way to work events, anyone gets into an event, top 3 players for example get rewarded respectively 1,2 or 3 coins for winning an event and can choose from a whole range of hats in some kind of shop to choose from.  

With regards to this, staff aren't obligated to give a winner another hat if they already have the one that was being hosted for. In this case, it may apply to the repeating winners as well. While it's not clear what exactly happened here, whether dual kicked him out of the event or something else happened that caused his character to be booted out, staff can choose whether or not they will give a replacement hat or let someone win twice. Most staff that don't intend to have made a note to announce it at the start of the event or in the event message since incidences of it occured.

Posted by tricklebean

i think there isn't a rule regarding how many times you can win events in a row

There isn't one. It would vary on the staff member hosting but of course there will be a limit.  

Posted by Milo

With regards to this, staff aren't obligated to give a winner another hat if they already have the one that was being hosted for. In this case, it may apply to the repeating winners as well. While it's not clear what exactly happened here, whether dual kicked him out of the event or something else happened that caused his character to be booted out, staff can choose whether or not they will give a replacement hat or let someone win twice. Most staff that don't intend to have made a note to announce it at the start of the event or in the event message since incidences of it occured.



There isn't one. It would vary on the staff member hosting but of course there will be a limit.

The events were hosted for 2 seperate hats tho and he didn't have the second one he had won for yet got kicked for winning the first event already  

Posted by Bryan*

It'll never be fixed lol. Dual only hosts warper events with easy hints (not challenging ones) which gives folks like these an advantage.

Easy hints actually made it harder for "event guilds"

Think about it this way;

Hard hint: the event Guilds, who have the most "hint" experience, find the warper quickly and send a gc message. They get a lot of members in, since it's a tough hint and single players(unexperienced ones) or newer players won't find the warper unless by chance.

Easy hint: 75% of players can find the warper, leaving very little time for event guilds to broadcast where it is since it will be filling up quickly. They will probably be able to summon a friend, if they're lucky.