Posted by Pazx

Excuse me, I said nowhere it is called an apple, which of course it is. I merely said it still exists and is therefore real, no matter what you say about it. You can call it an orange, it's still real.

How do you know that we are real?  

You're all figments of my imagination.  

Posted by Pazx

You're all figments of my imagination.

How do you know if imagination is real? waitwut?  

Posted by Pazx

You're all figments of my imagination.

Imagine me some supermodels.  

Posted by Yephenpeace

Haha, I don't know. Do some unbiased research on the topic if you want.

Just a few google searches and I already found some controversial websites about the topic. Like so: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread163678/pg1

I don't support absolutely everything that website says, I'm just telling you that people have pretty convincing arguments for both sides. I've never really believed in evolution, but I'm not some religious nut who claims to know everything either. I just think for myself, I guess.

That link is only attempting to disprove evolution. There is no scientific evidence that supports religion. If you do find it please show me.  

Posted by Chaotic

hell, dont want to get involved on this, but this is how I look at it

 

And yet Christianity deems their god as the "God of love" even though if you choose not to believe him (for obvious reasons) you will be sent to eternal hell. Makes sense.  

Posted by Rexx

That link is only attempting to disprove evolution. There is no scientific evidence that supports religion. If you do find it please show me.

Well, without evolution, what are you left with?

Just look it up on your own, there's sites that claim to have "evidence" all over the internet. If you only research one topic, you're only going to read about one topic. There's plenty of convincing arguments for religion and evolution.

Here's a link trying to prove "the great flood": http://www.squidoo.com/noahsarkfound

I'm a little skeptical of it, but it doesn't mean there is no evidence to support religion. Again, just google stuff if you really care. I remember watching an interesting show that was trying to prove that the great flood happened. They were showing the rock layers we have on earth and saying that they could have easily formed by a mass amount of flooding. Thus explaining the fossils everywhere and different rock formations.

Again, I'm not saying it's true, I'm just saying it's out there. I would also encourage you to research evolution. Until you fully understand it, it's no different than blindly following a religion.  

Posted by Yephenpeace

Well, without evolution, what are you left with?

Just look it up on your own, there's sites that claim to have "evidence" all over the internet. If you only research one topic, you're only going to read about one topic. There's plenty of convincing arguments for religion and evolution.

Here's a link trying to prove "the great flood": http://www.squidoo.com/noahsarkfound

I'm a little skeptical of it, but it doesn't mean there is no evidence to support religion. Again, just google stuff if you really care. I remember watching an interesting show that was trying to prove that the great flood happened. They were showing the rock layers we have on earth and saying that they could have easily formed by a mass amount of flooding. Thus explaining the fossils everywhere and different rock formations.

Again, I'm not saying it's true, I'm just saying it's out there. I would also encourage you to research evolution. Until you fully understand it, it's no different than blindly following a religion.

I like how your whole point of argument is that I havent researched anything, which I have. I'm sure if I scour the internet I'll find some crackpot that will say anything. Yes there was a giant flood, it was called all the ice melting after the Ice Age. I'm guessing Noah and his family built a huge boat and managed to get every animal in existence on it while the Earth was frozen over? So what if there was a giant flood? That means a talking snake must be real too? Floods are a natural occurrence.
I choose to lean more towards evolution because there is evidence and the fact that there is no scientific evidence that supports religion, I dont understand why thats hard for you to understand.  

lol "Noah and his family".  

Fact: Jesus was living on this Earth in the same time it was depicted in his stories.
Belief: He is the true lord and savior.

I personally believe that there is a God (I am Christian). I respect other's beliefs and will not bash on them, but will defend my own if it comes to that. There is no real way to prove that there is a God nor is there a way to prove there isn't. I personally believe he is real since, by science, the chance of a perfect screw or nail forming in space by floating space rocks and landing on a deserted island in perfect condition is like 1/13 trillion or so. There's a bigger chance of someone creating the nail for a space craft, launching it into space and for whatever reason it may be causes the nail to land on the island. Again, there is no real way to prove which is right since there is the slightest possibility. Meaning it could happen by itself.

I also personally don't believe in the big bang theory either. I never fully grasped the concept of how a giant explosion could create something. If you dropped a bomb on a printing press, does it make a book? Yet again, there is no way to prove either. I lean on how there is a God, because of the small probability of things forming themselves. Of all the things you see right now (save for natural objects). Paper, computers, etc. Someone created them, right?

That's my personal belief on how things were created, as for what happens when you die: be patient, you'll find out one day.

As for this thread, it's a time bomb waiting to go off. Someone should close it.  

Posted by Blueh

Fact: Jesus was living on this Earth in the same time it was depicted in his stories.
Belief: He is the true lord and savior.

I personally believe that there is a God (I am Christian). I respect other's beliefs and will not bash on them, but will defend my own if it comes to that. There is no real way to prove that there is a God nor is there a way to prove there isn't. I personally believe he is real since, by science, the chance of a perfect screw or nail forming in space by floating space rocks and landing on a deserted island in perfect condition is like 1/13 trillion or so. There's a bigger chance of someone creating the nail for a space craft, launching it into space and for whatever reason it may be causes the nail to land on the island. Again, there is no real way to prove which is right since there is the slightest possibility. Meaning it could happen by itself.

I also personally don't believe in the big bang theory either. I never fully grasped the concept of how a giant explosion could create something. If you dropped a bomb on a printing press, does it make a book? Yet again, there is no way to prove either. I lean on how there is a God, because of the small probability of things forming themselves. Of all the things you see right now (save for natural objects). Paper, computers, etc. Someone created them, right?

That's my personal belief on how things were created, as for what happens when you die: be patient, you'll find out one day.

As for this thread, it's a time bomb waiting to go off. Someone should close it.

That's basically where evolution and the big bang theory come from, you just explained it yourself. Religion states God simply created the universe in 7 days and it was just that easy.
Why should this thread be closed? If someone can't handle it and goes crazy, I'm not going to argue with them. Their post should be removed not the entire thread.  

Posted by Rexx

That's basically where evolution and the big bang theory come from, you just explained it yourself. Religion states God simply created the universe in 7 days and it was just that easy.
Why should this thread be closed? If someone can't handle it and goes crazy, I'm not going to argue with them. Their post should be removed not the entire thread.

It's nice to hear other people's opinions and believes. But on a subject like this, flame wars are bound to happen. Looking back to any YouTube comment that mentions God, **** goes crazy soon after. Even if the video doesn't relate.  

Posted by Blueh

It's nice to hear other people's opinions and believes. But on a subject like this, flame wars are bound to happen. Looking back to any YouTube comment that mentions God, **** goes crazy soon after. Even if the video doesn't relate.

Youtube is a terrible place to try to have a simple conversation. Trolls and flamers run rampant in the comments section of every video.  

True, very true.