I see the issue as people that lag out in spars and so as a result with this system they will always have 3hp will their opponent who has been sparring will have lower so that means someone who lagged out will always win. I thinkn if you do not move for 30seconds in a spar you automatically get kicked.  

But then think of all the people who would get one hit and run for five minutes.  

Yes, and think of all the people who would get hit 5 times and run for 4 minutes? The difference is that one player was winning and one wasn't. You're listing a very extreme, pointless example. If you take a hit, you should have to be the one to take the initiative to actually engage a spar and give yourself a chance to win, not the opponent.

You're not alone in these thoughts. There are people in the GS arena right now saying, "LOOK HOW EXPLOITABLE THIS IS XDDD" and hitting their opponent to 0.5, while they still have 2.0, and then they tie it for the win.
?????

I don't think you guys realize how bad it was before. It can be 3 vs. 0.5 and the 0.5 can run for a few minutes and deny the win. That's pretty stupid.

I dunno what analogy can help you understand. Think of a boxing match where Boxer A is beating the hell out of Boxer B, but Boxer B just keeps wrapping him up or going to his corner until the fight is over. So, because Boxer A didn't knock him out, Boxer B gets a tie. Shouldn't Boxer A get the win by decision?
If you say yes: congrats, you support this change
If you say no: boxing would be ****

Posted by Thallen

FP4, the only issue I've seen this posing is people who disconnect in spars often. If the spar was in progress, or it's a GS, someone can lag out and it's kinda bad. Is there something you can implement where players who are stationary or unhittable for 30-60 seconds automatically get warped out of the spar? Even without these new ties, it's something we've needed forever.

Quoting this so FP4 sees it on page 2.  

This is just gonna make me hit people so they are 0.5 down from me and ten just run around in the gs until time is over  

Posted by Natso

This is just gonna make me hit people so they are 0.5 down from me and ten just run around in the gs until time is over

Why? What makes you think you can't beat them if you can get a lead on them?
I mean, if you want to do that then feel free, but that's an awful lot of unnecessary time wasted when you could just win the proper way.

You know until yesterday you could prevent a loss by doing the same exact thing, how come you'd never do that?  

Posted by Thallen

Why? What makes you think you can't beat them if you can get a lead on them?
I mean, if you want to do that then feel free, but that's an awful lot of unnecessary time wasted when you could just win the proper way.

You know until yesterday you could prevent a loss by doing the same exact thing, how come you'd never do that?

So what happens when you start a match u get hit one time and the you opponent goes into them 10 min lags spike where he does not move and does not lose health ... Becouse that one cheap / lucky shot you've bassicly lost if a admins not around  

Posted by Thallen

FP4, the only issue I've seen this posing is people who disconnect in spars often. If the spar was in progress, or it's a GS, someone can lag out and it's kinda bad. Is there something you can implement where players who are stationary or unhittable for 30 seconds or 1 minute automatically get warped out of the spar? Even without these new ties, it's something we've needed forever.

I've implemented a check to try and address this problem.  

Posted by fp4

I've implemented a check to try and address this problem.

nice, had someone test it and they claimed that after about 30 seconds of being frozen they were warped out of the spar
thanks  

Posted by fp4

I've implemented a check to try and address this problem.

Can you at least put these updates in the news nobody knows about it except from the minority that read the forums instead of having silent updates.  

Posted by Kuz

Can you at least put these updates in the news nobody knows about it except from the minority that read the forums instead of having silent updates.

News is only for money grabbing updates.  

I can certainly see this changing the way guild spar works specifically. It really puts a lot of pressure on the early spar (at least for people looking to exploit) because you can, as mentioned, hit once then run, making the other guy put in work. I think this would overall make spar more interesting, and this is coming from a teammate of Eko, who so famously tied 1v3 to help pull out a GsT win using the method that now doesn't work.  

plenty of smart people were using the old ties to their advantage, as they should be
Sarah used it vs. 5pa4 just last GST, it's just good strategy if it's something that's allowed within the game

I'm sure people will do the same with this system, but I don't see that as a problem because this way makes a lot more sense to me if the winning player wins or it actually forces the losing player to initiate a spar if they want a chance to win - forcing the winning player into a bad position or face a tie seems wrong to me

a lot of people on my team don't agree with the change (possibly because they feel that previous way benefited them more), but I think it's the right way to do it
even delayers will soon realize that there are obvious benefits to this  

I agree, noone really benefits in the true sense of the word, and noone gets disadvantaged, the strategy just got switched. You actually have to do something before you run now, but you can still run.  

Following up: Sarah just told me she 20%'d and didn't get warped from spar, did you fix that as well?

Also, she is claiming that if a player is in GS and they pause, if their team wins the pop-up notification will say that the team has lost.  

Gst stratagie : hit someone and run for 5 mins withough getting hit = win