Posted by GlazeyB

Only sarcasm? No counter argument? Come on, that's just pathetic.

That was the counter argument... You're claim kids are being stupid therefore it shouldn't be legal.

If your kids are learning that stealing is okay then maybe you deserve it.  

Posted by Yog

That was the counter argument... You're claim kids are being stupid therefore it shouldn't be legal.

If your kids are learning that stealing is okay then maybe you deserve it.

Kids are stupid. Overwhelmingly stupid.

People, kids especially, will do things they know are wrong. I know I did when I was kid, and guess what? I learned from it. Some of them my parents know about, some they don't.

Did you do anything you know was wrong as a kid? We both know you did, why am I asking this?

For the topic of CS Skins, aslong if its just skins and their parents knowingly gave them the money to get those skins, I don't see a problem. But we're not really discussing that, we're talking about kids who stole CC information for that stuff and wouldn't be able to get money back.  

FFS Yog, not everything is black and white.

Yeah, kids obviously lack the knowledge and discipline and adults and thus are more prone to do stupid things. But hey, they learn at least.

I confess, I actually nicked my parent's credit card and used it to buy gralats on several occasions back in the day. In the end, I regret doing that and repaid them for it.

But parents can't retain control over their kids forever and they can't watch their every action either which is why its up to the kids to eventually recognize responsibility for their actions.

The least we can do is set them down the right path.  

Posted by GlazeyB

Kids are stupid. Overwhelmingly stupid.

People, kids especially, will do things they know are wrong. I know I did when I was kid, and guess what? I learned from it. Some of them my parents know about, some they don't.

Did you do anything you know was wrong as a kid? We both know you did, why am I asking this?

You're right. Kids do stupid ****. Can't say I ever stole, no, but there are minors out there who are responsible, are employed, and would want to gamble on CS items. But because there are kids out there who steal their parents cards it all the sudden needs to be banned? Just take the damn cards away once you catch them doing it. What's the big deal?

Some are also saying it's addictive. If that's the case, what difference does it make being a 15 year old gambling for virtual items vs an 18 year old doing the same.  

Yes Yog, because gambling was never meant for kids in the first place.

So what if some kids are responsible with gambling? It isn't even legal for them to be doing it in the first place.

That's the entire point of this thread, ty for derail.  

Posted by 5hift

Yes Yog, because gambling was never meant for kids in the first place.

This isn't casino gambling. It's video game gambling.

Posted by 5hift

So what if some kids are responsible with gambling? It isn't even legal for them to be doing it in the first place.

Do you ever stop to think of the context of what someone is saying, before claiming that they're wrong? No **** it's illegal. My point is that it shouldn't be.

Posted by 5hift

That's the entire point of this thread, ty for derail.

Gambling is relevant. There was no derail. I'm saying I'm against the lawsuit but you're too stuck up to see that. What point are you trying to make?  

Kids can get a hold of cigarettes, guns, alcohol, or anything. The excuse that "kids can get a hold of credit cards so let's ban gambling for minors" is a terrible reason for banning gambling for minors. Might as well ban cigarettes, guns, alcohol, or pretty much anything a kid could get a hold of that they shouldn't have. Parents should be responsible. They should teach their kids not to do that. They can also put parental restrictions on the kid's device so they can't use credit cards. There's a lot of safety systems in place to prevent that. Not sure why some people think that excuse is even valid.

Posted by 5hift

Yes Yog, because gambling was never meant for kids in the first place.

So what if some kids are responsible with gambling? It isn't even legal for them to be doing it in the first place.

The law is the law, but that doesn't make it right. Gambling was never meant for kids? Says who? It's not meant for anyone. It's an activity that people can choose to do.  

Posted by 5hift

FFS Yog, not everything is black and white.

Yeah, kids obviously lack the knowledge and discipline and adults and thus are more prone to do stupid things. But hey, they learn at least.

I confess, I actually nicked my parent's credit card and used it to buy gralats on several occasions back in the day. In the end, I regret doing that and repaid them for it.

But parents can't retain control over their kids forever and they can't watch their every action either which is why its up to the kids to eventually recognize responsibility for their actions.

The least we can do is set them down the right path.

I can't believe they haven't written a book on their great parenting skills.

Posted by Yog

You're right. Kids do stupid ****. Can't say I ever stole, no, but there are minors out there who are responsible, are employed, and would want to gamble on CS items. But because there are kids out there who steal their parents cards it all the sudden needs to be banned? Just take the damn cards away once you catch them doing it. What's the big deal?

Some are also saying it's addictive. If that's the case, what difference does it make being a 15 year old gambling for virtual items vs an 18 year old doing the same.

We're not talking about minors making their own money and gambling with CS items though. Why bring this up? That wasn't my question, but alright, good for you. I'm saying there needs to be a better system for it, and some form of restriction needed to get through in order to gamble.

Some parents might have the luxury of having that money just sitting there. So they're just ****ed if their kid just takes the information and does it?

Gambling is addictive. This isn't just "some people are saying". This isn't debatable, in the slightest.

Posted by PigParty

Kids can get a hold of cigarettes, guns, alcohol, or anything. The excuse that "kids can get a hold of credit cards so let's ban gambling for minors" is a terrible reason for banning gambling for minors. Might as well ban cigarettes, guns, alcohol, or pretty much anything a kid could get a hold of that they shouldn't have. Parents should be responsible. They should teach their kids not to do that. They can also put parental restrictions on the kid's device so they can't use credit cards. There's a lot of safety systems in place to prevent that. Not sure why some people think that excuse is even valid.

You're right, why have anything banned at all since kids can get a hold of it, why not just make it all legal and purchasable at any age.

The law is the law, but that doesn't make it right. Gambling was never meant for kids? Says who? It's not meant for anyone. It's an activity that people can choose to do.

Until the law is changed, suck **** until then and don't do it? Says the majority of people who studied the ****ing effects on people who gamble.  

Posted by Yog

This isn't casino gambling. It's video game gambling.

Literally doesn't matter.

Like I said before, the skins are just chips. Money is the real prize.

Posted by Yog

Do you ever stop to think of the context of what someone is saying, before claiming that they're wrong? No **** it's illegal. My point is that it shouldn't be.

Do you?

Thanks for warping the entire meaning what I was trying to say originally to say. Not every enjoyable thing is a drug unless you're Conquest.

Posted by Yog

Gambling is relevant. There was no derail. I'm saying I'm against the lawsuit but you're too stuck up to see that. What point are you trying to make?

**** off. You're actually more annoying than the worthless ****posting trolls on this site.  

Posted by GlazeyB

I can't believe they haven't written a book on their great parenting skills.

Should write a biography on your ****ty ones.

Posted by GlazeyB

We're not talking about minors making their own money and gambling with CS items though. Why bring this up? That wasn't my question, but alright, good for you. I'm saying there needs to be a better system for it, and some form of restriction needed to get through in order to gamble.

Because that's what this is about. All of it. The only reason this lawsuit exists is because of gambling laws. The better system is called parenting and managing your money.

Posted by GlazeyB

Some parents might have the luxury of having that money just sitting there. So they're just ****ed if their kid just takes the information and does it?

The privilege of having money must be so hard. Can't imagine what it's like having a ****ty child who steals from you. Don't leave your money sitting in the open. Why is that such a foreign concept to you.

Posted by GlazeyB

Gambling is addictive. This isn't just "some people are saying". This isn't debatable, in the slightest.

And so is caffeine, sugar, eating, video games, music, and MSG. Do you want those banned from minors too?

Spoiler

http://abc13.com/health/study-sugar-...ocaine/533979/
http://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2015/...ealth-research
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacobsul.../#5cd1b6ee4b7b

Posted by 5hift

Thanks for warping the entire meaning what I was trying to say originally to say. Not every enjoyable thing is a drug unless you're Conquest.

You're saying that it's illegal so they shouldn't do it. Thanks, Sherlock, but I already knew that.  

Jesus H. D***s Yog, nobody here except for you is talking about banning gambling or anything.

Some of us just think it shouldn't be accessible to youths who aren't responsible.

No parent can have complete control over their child. So your whole "good parenting" argument is pointless.

Not every child is a harmless little angel so stop acting like you're ideal child is the shining example for every other one in the world.  

Posted by GlazeyB

You're right, why have anything banned at all since kids can get a hold of it, why not just make it all legal and purchasable at any age.

I was thinking more along the lines of ban everything. It would be unethical to keep it legal since minors can get a hold of it.  

Posted by PigParty

I was thinking more along the lines of ban everything. It would be unethical to keep it legal since minors can get a hold of it.

Prohibition went pretty well, right?  

Posted by 5hift

Jesus H. D***s Yog, nobody here is talking about banning gambling or anything.

Banning it for minors. My bad. wasn't clear enough on that.

Posted by 5hift

Some of us just think it shouldn't be accessible to youths who aren't responsible.

But there's no way to differentiate between those responsible and those who aren't. That should be the parents responsibility to decide whether not they are capable of monitoring how much they spend. It's either ban it for all minors, or ban it for none.

Posted by 5hift

No parent can have complete control over their child. So your whole "good parenting" argument is pointless.

You don't have to have complete control over your child, but you could teach them that stealing is obviously wrong, and do a little better at managing your credit cards which from what you guys are making it sound like, have access to your life savings.

Posted by 5hift

Not every child is a harmless little angel so stop acting like you're ideal child is the shining example for every other one in the world.

My child? What? I'm 18. If your child thinks that stealing is okay then maybe you did a ****ty job at raising them?

I have 5 other siblings. None of whom to my knowledge have ever or would ever even think of stealing from my parents because... what the ****?  

Yog, I'm pretty sure most kids are raised knowing stealing is not a good thing but at the same time, will probably do so anyways at some point in their lives.

Not every kid blindly listens to their parents for long. They're rebellious, weren't we all?