This thread is talking way too much about religion and divine gods. It was meant to be a discussion on the legitimacy of some scientific theories, and in my opinion throwing religion into it is very off topic.

Posted by GOAT

idk guys that think everything has a scientific explination

Wait-- you don't think everything has a scientific explanation...? So you think there are things like magic, and voodo? Things that just happen because heck, who cares about how?

I think you are very confused. There is a massive difference between not currently being able to fully explain something scientifically, and something NOT being explainable by science. Its like saying a magician is magically doing things because you don't currently know how the magic trick really works.  

Posted by Pimpsy G.

*Large quote about how matter and antimatter could have formed*

I always enjoyed the universe-inside-a-black-hole theory. Quite an interesting one.

(Anyways, religious debates are pointless. I'm a Christian, but a forum for a 2D Zelda game is no place to try to convert people.

The Aesop fable where the Sun and the Wind are competing to get a traveler to take of his coat is a great example of why it's not a good idea, so shaddap.)  

Posted by Pimpsy G.

This thread is talking way too much about religion and divine gods. It was meant to be a discussion on the legitimacy of some scientific theories, and in my opinion throwing religion into it is very off topic.



Wait-- you don't think everything has a scientific explanation...? So you think there are things like magic, and voodo? Things that just happen because heck, who cares about how?

I think you are very confused. There is a massive difference between not currently being able to fully explain something scientifically, and something NOT being explainable by science. Its like saying a magician is magically doing things because you don't currently know how the magic trick really works.

Give me a quill and I'll show you where the ink lies. Spills are a great possibility.

Anyway, there are things that have not been explained just yet. Examples I have is ghost phenomenon, the unaccounted for weight that leaves a dead body at the point of death, near death experiences, etc.

However, I agree Pimpsy. But only God knows the "how" behind unexplained phenomenon. Science can only try to grasp at the undiscovered logic behind divinity. For all we know there could be all types of dimensions that have their own rules and structures. Heaven could be one. Who knows.

One thing I find odd in science is the behavior of subatomic particles. Especially light. Apparenlty light can be in two different places at the same time and can be effected by our "viewing" of certain expiraments. Our involvement in the study directly effects the results of the experiments. Odd.  

Posted by Shock

Give me a quill and I'll show you where the ink lies. Spills are a great possibility.

Anyway, there are things that have not been explained just yet. Examples I have is ghost phenomenon, the unaccounted for weight that leaves a dead body at the point of death, near death experiences, etc.

However, I agree Pimpsy. But only God knows the "how" behind unexplained phenomenon. Science can only try to grasp at the undiscovered logic behind divinity. For all we know there could be all types of dimensions that have their own rules and structures. Heaven could be one. Who knows.

One thing I find odd in science is the behavior of subatomic particles. Especially light. Apparenlty light can be in two different places at the same time and can be effected by our "viewing" of certain expiraments. Our involvement in the study directly effects the results of the experiments. Odd.

Schrödinger's cat anyone?  

Posted by Dimentio

Schrödinger's cat anyone?

Heh I was thinking that.

They have discovered a black hole that is as big as 56% of the universe, that is very scary.  

Posted by Dimentio

Schrödinger's cat anyone?

It's a crazy concept. How can something exist in two states while making up the materials in which we perceive are uniform?  

tbh i think some of these scientific theories are turning so complex that they're partly bull****. reminds me of those pseudo-science theories people with creative minds come up with.

then again everyone thought einstein was full of **** until practical experiments began confirming his theories.  

There is no way to prove anything in existence to a full %100. there is your answer (:  

Posted by Dimentio

Schrödinger's cat anyone?

How the **** does everyone know about this now, I thought I was the only one that looked into these types of things. Quantum superposition still baffles me though.

Laplace's Demon anyone?  

To end the reglious battle completely for all of the Christians trying to scientificly prove the existence of God :

If God were to be real, he would have created all things, that includes the laws of science. So you cannot prove or disprove the existence of God with science.  

Posted by ArtaXerXes

To end the reglious battle completely for all of the Christians trying to scientificly prove the existence of God :

If God were to be real, he would have created all things, that includes the laws of science. So you cannot prove or disprove the existence of God with science.

This is a thread about the legitimacy of science. It annoys me so much when religious people try to make these types of things a question of the legitimacy of a god existing. That is ludicrous. The concept of a god has no more place in a religous debate than a flying sphagetti monster. The only legitimate debate you can have with religion is comparing the legitimacy of science with the legitimacy of specific religious texts, like the Quran, or the Bible.

Generally religious debates degenerate into perpetual arguments where people skew information, trying to make it seem like you can't prove anything with science, so you can therefore believe anything (Including religions)(and greek mythology). Which doesn't really resolve much considering the extremely different philosophies that exist between religious and non religious people (One is based on faith, another is based on observable reliability.)