Giving teachers the right to bear arms - 6

Skyzer · 06-20-2016

I think people are confused about how the US government works.

It is a democracy. The government of the US doesn't make laws that it thinks needs to be made based on data and general need. It makes laws based on what the people want through elected representatives.

Gun control can be done. The sale of guns can be restricted, and ownership can require stricter screening and licensing. However, guns cannot be made illegal. That will NEVER happen in the United States. The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." The peoples' right to have weapons is protected by the US Constitution.

Also, the argument with teachers having guns isn't the government seeking an answer to school shootings and coming up with giving teachers guns. It's teachers requesting permission to carry personal fire arms to protect themselves and their students, and, tbh, I don't support it. Shooting someone is not an easy decision, and I wouldn't want anyone to feel obligated to have to own a gun and worry about needing to shoot someone. I also don't want anyone to resort to shooting someone when there are other means to prevent those situations. However, I opt not to vote, so I do not get upset or defensive when people disagree with me on these subjects because I don't put my say into it.

PigParty · 06-20-2016

If the gov. ever tried to take guns away from everyone, I guaruntee that dozens of cops will be shot on the day they try to collect them. People would rather die than give up their guns.

Illegalizing all guns shouldn't even be a discussion. The 2nd amendment was made so that we (the people) can protect ourselves from a corrupt or oppressive government. Don't ya think that gov. taking our protection away is the exact reason we are allowed to have guns in the first place?

Yog · 06-20-2016

Posted by PigParty

If the gov. ever tried to take guns away from everyone, I guaruntee that dozens of cops will be shot on the day they try to collect them. People would rather die than give up their guns.

Illegalizing all guns shouldn't even be a discussion. The 2nd amendment was made so that we (the people) can protect ourselves from a corrupt or oppressive government. Don't ya think that gov. taking our protection away is the exact reason we are allowed to have guns in the first place?

Ya the people shooting cops don't sound like they'd ever want to use their guns illegally at all. A+

PigParty · 06-20-2016

Posted by Skyzer

Also, the argument with teachers having guns isn't the government seeking an answer to school shootings and coming up with giving teachers guns. It's teachers requesting permission to carry personal fire arms to protect themselves and their students, and, tbh, I don't support it. Shooting someone is not an easy decision, and I wouldn't want anyone to feel obligated to have to own a gun and worry about needing to shoot someone. I also don't want anyone to resort to shooting someone when there are other means to prevent those situations. However, I opt not to vote, so I do not get upset or defensive when people disagree with me on these subjects because I don't put my say into it.

If they ever tried to force teachers to carry guns, then that's an issue. When people suggest the idea of teachers being armed, they don't mean all teachers. They mean a select few that would be willing to. And they would need to be trained, have psych evaluations, and more. As to your statement about not shooting someone when there are other means - that's great for police, but if innocent civilians feel that their life is threatened, they're able to use deadly force, and should. I'm for teachers carrying guns, but it has to be done perfectly. There's no room for error when it comes to guns in schools, and I can't trust the government to do that. I still think the main focus needs to be on mental health, rather than gun control.

Posted by Yog

Ya the people shooting cops don't sound like they'd ever want to use their guns illegally at all. A+

I never said they wouldn't be using it illegally. I just said some people would shoot cops before giving up their guns, because it's true.

Yog · 06-20-2016

Posted by PigParty

I never said they wouldn't be using it illegally. I just said some people would shoot cops before giving up their guns, because it's true.

Then how can you believe the state of gun control we have now is fine?

G Fatal · 06-20-2016

Ik he's hated but anyone know what trump's stance is on this?

PigParty · 06-20-2016

Posted by Yog

Then how can you believe the state of gun control we have now is fine?

Lol. Show me where I said that. Pretty much every single post I've made on this thread has said that I believe there are major issues with gun control today.

Posted by G Fatal

Ik he's hated but anyone know what trump's stance is on this?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/20/politi...s-nra-orlando/

Yog · 06-20-2016

Posted by G Fatal

Ik he's hated but anyone know what trump's stance is on this?

Depends on which day of the week it is.

PigParty · 06-20-2016

Posted by Yog

Depends on which day of the week it is.

sometimes it even changes on an hourly basis.

G Fatal · 06-20-2016

Oh god ahaha

Fulgore · 06-21-2016

Posted by Zetectic

if it becomes illegal = why not? i know it's impossible, but at least if they tried, they can collect millions of legally registered guns.

Cool. Now our citizens are unarmed and the criminals still keep their guns because they don't care about the law. Now they break into your house and take everything with no fear, and shoot you if they want to.

Yog · 06-21-2016

Posted by Fulgore

Cool. Now our citizens are unarmed and the criminals still keep their guns because they don't care about the law. Now they break into your house and take everything with no fear, and shoot you if they want to.

What's stopping them from shooting up unarmed homes now?

Thallen · 06-21-2016

Posted by Yog

What's stopping them from shooting up unarmed homes now?

I'm not a criminal, but if I was going to consider robbing someone's house I'd take into consideration that there are more guns than there are citizens in the US... That'd probably discourage me just a little bit

Yog · 06-21-2016

Posted by Thallen

I'm not a criminal, but if I was going to consider robbing someone's house I'd take into consideration that there are more guns than there are citizens in the US... That'd probably discourage me just a little bit

I mean I've found it isn't too hard to find out which houses carry firearms. That and if I've already killed someone, their guns are harmless...

Thallen · 06-21-2016

Posted by Yog

I mean I've found it isn't too hard to find out which houses carry firearms.

Wat? How? Don't think anyone knows I have a gun, not everyone who owns a handgun is a Confederate flag-waving redneck or anything
I feel like saying "it isn't too hard to find out which houses carry firearms" only reinforces the notion that everyone should probably own one

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Skyzer Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Hampshire, United States Posts: 3,135	I think people are confused about how the US government works. It is a democracy. The government of the US doesn't make laws that it thinks needs to be made based on data and general need. It makes laws based on what the people want through elected representatives. Gun control can be done. The sale of guns can be restricted, and ownership can require stricter screening and licensing. However, guns cannot be made illegal. That will NEVER happen in the United States. The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." The peoples' right to have weapons is protected by the US Constitution. Also, the argument with teachers having guns isn't the government seeking an answer to school shootings and coming up with giving teachers guns. It's teachers requesting permission to carry personal fire arms to protect themselves and their students, and, tbh, I don't support it. Shooting someone is not an easy decision, and I wouldn't want anyone to feel obligated to have to own a gun and worry about needing to shoot someone. I also don't want anyone to resort to shooting someone when there are other means to prevent those situations. However, I opt not to vote, so I do not get upset or defensive when people disagree with me on these subjects because I don't put my say into it. Last edited by Skyzer; 06-20-2016 at 08:32 PM.

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PigParty PigParty🐷 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: PigPen Posts: 2,913	If the gov. ever tried to take guns away from everyone, I guaruntee that dozens of cops will be shot on the day they try to collect them. People would rather die than give up their guns. Illegalizing all guns shouldn't even be a discussion. The 2nd amendment was made so that we (the people) can protect ourselves from a corrupt or oppressive government. Don't ya think that gov. taking our protection away is the exact reason we are allowed to have guns in the first place?

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G Fatal Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: UK Posts: 3,215	Ik he's hated but anyone know what trump's stance is on this?