Bullet Walls and Warping Players

Froggy Krueger · 10-11-2011

Hey, as you all probably know when someone is laggy and they shoot their gun a lot, a wall of bullets suddenly appears and they warp to safety. Don't suppose it's possible for those bullets to just disappear and not hurt anyone cause that isn't really fair, and the lagger gets warped back to where he was?

BootySlayer · 10-26-2011

Seems they could use all that BAR money to upgrade to better servers and address the lag. Wait, what BAR money? Lol

snk · 10-26-2011

Posted by BootySlayer

Seems they could use all that BAR money to upgrade to better servers and address the lag. Wait, what BAR money? Lol

so funne

I don't think there is anything we can do =[

Emera · 10-26-2011

Posted by snk

so funne

I don't think there is anything we can do =[

If you shout really load at it, it might go away

Works for me.

Froggy Krueger · 10-27-2011

Posted by snk

so funne

I don't think there is anything we can do =[

Would it be possible to make it so that the game detects if like 8 bullets come out of an m4 at once? Or something impossible without lag like that?

snk · 10-27-2011

I could, but it would lag your game like hell =p

BboyEatsbacon · 10-27-2011

Posted by BootySlayer

Seems they could use all that BAR money to upgrade to better servers and address the lag. Wait, what BAR money? Lol

Too bad 85% of lag is clientside, aka, you're the only ones that can fix.

Unused_1 · 10-28-2011

Then how did classic almost defeat all there lag on the server?
Like on classic I've never lagged out of the app or crashed..,
Yet on Era it crashes almost every 20 minutes.Could go on about lag issues aswell. :/

Froggy Krueger · 10-28-2011

Hmm... How about a separate spar for players with over x ms. That way they would still be able to spar at least... Pk/basing might still be an issue though... Segregation ftw!

Unused_1 · 10-28-2011

^ What He Said

Twinny · 10-28-2011

I would think Era would create a lot more triggers given the sheer amount of projectiles being created (compare people shooting arrows to players firing miniguns). This would mean the server is under a lot more strain (but then, i've never looked into resource usage on them

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One possibility could be to replace projectiles with classes. Create weapons to smartly shoot projectiles. Instead of a projectile per shot, create a projectile with a fraction of the rate per fire (a minigun might create a particle which handles 5 bullets). This method would create less triggers but would make things like accuracy difficult (making a particle handle multiple bullets at different angels would suck) plus shoot() is quite optimised so this may not balance out well over time.

On a flip side, this would give greater control over the projectile so could add modifiers (bullets with explosive tips, degraded damage over flight path, deflect bullets off armor)

Such a thing would take a lot of time and effort but would be fun

For the original problem of the wall of bullets, I think this could be one for Stefan. Some kind of restriction to only allow a certain amount of bullets from a player per second. Would require a lot of fiddling I think (only he can make such changes)

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Froggy Krueger a necessary evil Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Upon the marge of Lake Lebarge Posts: 1,458	Bullet Walls and Warping Players Hey, as you all probably know when someone is laggy and they shoot their gun a lot, a wall of bullets suddenly appears and they warp to safety. Don't suppose it's possible for those bullets to just disappear and not hurt anyone cause that isn't really fair, and the lagger gets warped back to where he was?

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BootySlayer blocks everyone Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Texas :) Posts: 268	Seems they could use all that BAR money to upgrade to better servers and address the lag. Wait, what BAR money? Lol

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snk Guest Posts: n/a	I could, but it would lag your game like hell =p

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Unused_1 Era iPhone Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 162	Then how did classic almost defeat all there lag on the server? Like on classic I've never lagged out of the app or crashed.., Yet on Era it crashes almost every 20 minutes.Could go on about lag issues aswell. :/

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Twinny Registered User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Testbed Posts: 604	I would think Era would create a lot more triggers given the sheer amount of projectiles being created (compare people shooting arrows to players firing miniguns). This would mean the server is under a lot more strain (but then, i've never looked into resource usage on them ) One possibility could be to replace projectiles with classes. Create weapons to smartly shoot projectiles. Instead of a projectile per shot, create a projectile with a fraction of the rate per fire (a minigun might create a particle which handles 5 bullets). This method would create less triggers but would make things like accuracy difficult (making a particle handle multiple bullets at different angels would suck) plus shoot() is quite optimised so this may not balance out well over time. On a flip side, this would give greater control over the projectile so could add modifiers (bullets with explosive tips, degraded damage over flight path, deflect bullets off armor) Such a thing would take a lot of time and effort but would be fun For the original problem of the wall of bullets, I think this could be one for Stefan. Some kind of restriction to only allow a certain amount of bullets from a player per second. Would require a lot of fiddling I think (only he can make such changes)