I think someone should just 404 era  

Wow, these comments have been so helpful... #sarcasm.

I think I'm done asking for feedback here.

There's no pleasing some individuals within this community, the fact that iEra is not Era PC is not a reason to dislike Era. They are in fact different servers with different goals.  

Posted by Nabu Lapse

I think you guys should force the entire iEra staff team to play Era PC for at least one whole week. In this time they could learn how Era is actually supposed to be and I feel that would greatly benefit iEra. They could finally learn and see all the terrible mistakes they've made.

I like your thinking

Posted by Reno

Wow, these comments have been so helpful... #sarcasm.

I think I'm done asking for feedback here.

There's no pleasing some individuals within this community, the fact that iEra is not Era PC is not a reason to dislike Era. They are in fact different servers with different goals.

There have been many legitimate points raised though. The staff team is incompetent, the game tries its hardest to squeeze as much cash out of its player base as possible while providing the bare minimum for non-paying users, etc.

iEra has poor business practices and a horrible team. We say to look at Era because, lo and behold, Era is doing mostly everything right. A small team that pumps out consistent content that actually has substance, guns that are nicely balanced, a working economy, explosives are useful, jobs are actually rewarding and so on. You should really look beyond that guise of "iEra is gud" and seriously just take a look at how Era gets **** done. People are starting to take notice of this and slowly migrating to the server, considering the max player count has risen by 20 within a few weeks.  

Posted by Cookie Xanadu

I like your thinking



There have been many legitimate points raised though. The staff team is incompetent, the game tries its hardest to squeeze as much cash out of its player base as possible while providing the bare minimum for non-paying users, etc.

iEra has poor business practices and a horrible team. We say to look at Era because, lo and behold, Era is doing mostly everything right. A small team that pumps out consistent content that actually has substance, guns that are nicely balanced, a working economy, explosives are useful, jobs are actually rewarding and so on. You should really look beyond that guise of "iEra is gud" and seriously just take a look at how Era gets **** done. People are starting to take notice of this and slowly migrating to the server, considering the max player count has risen by 20 within a few weeks.

I think there's some misconception that the iEra staff team is in control of things like prices, gralat-packs and other economy related things. We're not. The 'poor business practices' are nothing to do with the everyday staff team.

For the record, all the "the staff team is bad" comments are not actually constructive.  

Posted by Reno

Wow, these comments have been so helpful... #sarcasm.

I think I'm done asking for feedback here.

There's no pleasing some individuals within this community, the fact that iEra is not Era PC is not a reason to dislike Era. They are in fact different servers with different goals.

You don't seem very professional..
Even if people don't seem pleased you should still try to not act like a kid an give up.
If you really want some feedback you should keep asking for it on this community because the one on era-go are mostly just stupid.  

Posted by Kay9

You don't seem very professional..
Even if people don't seem pleased you should still try to not act like a kid an give up.
If you really want some feedback you should keep asking for it on this community because the one on era-go are mostly just stupid.

You question my professionalism but then make the premise that another community provides stupid feedback without attaching an argument to that sentence. Well done.

I'm not "giving up", I am finished acquiring feedback from both communities. I have more than enough now.

Whilst some of the feedback from this community was valuable, the people on Era-Go provided more of it. More of it being useful as well. I don't mean this as an attack on the people here, it's only natural that people on Era-Go would provide better feedback than the some of the people here. But I do think it's good to get ideas from both of the iServer fan communities.

If I need more feedback at a later time I'll update this thread, that's not to say that if you post here with feedback I won't see it and add it to our list but I might not necessarily comment or act on it.  

Posted by Reno

I think there's some misconception that the iEra staff team is in control of things like prices, gralat-packs and other economy related things. We're not. The 'poor business practices' are nothing to do with the everyday staff team.

For the record, all the "the staff team is bad" comments are not actually constructive.

It should be a clue to shape up when many people are constantly complaining about how horrible the staff team is.

Regarding the shekels, I know it ultimately falls on Unix, however, SNK is able to at least give some minor influence and make minor changes. Now, I'm not talking about the prices of the gelat packs themselves, I'm talking about how there is little reward if you're not paying that 200 shekels for a brand new BAR. Nothing is really able to be earned without no-lifing for months. If something was implemented that would at least fix that problem in the form of (even untrade-able) weapons that would be earned from achievements or what have you, then that would be fine. However, as it stands, iEra will continue to have that brand on them making the server utter trash for how it treats the non-paying players.

I'll use Mabinogi North America, which is hosted by Nexon as an example seeing as how they're one of the most hated companies that I know of. In Mabinogi, you can choose to either pay and buy little things that can be somewhat helpful to a casual player or you can choose to pay nothing. Making money is easy in Mabinogi for someone who doesn't pay and they have the chances of netting items that give 5-20mil from dungeon drops. These said items cannot be acquired by paying real money, except for a few rare instances. Players are not forced to pay real money to get the items that they want, but they have the option. Jobs pay well, dungeons pay well, shadow missions pay well, etc.

iEra on the other hand slaps you across the face when you tell it that you do not wish to purchase anything and punishes you with jobs that provide little return and unbalanced guns due to the some players whining about much needed balance changes. I won't go into Mabi's balancing as it's pretty bad, but Nexon is bad with it, but at least you're not forced to pay REAL money. No punishment from them

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Another thing I forgot to mention is that there really should be a speed boost for melees. It'd give an incentive to actually use them  

Posted by Cookie Xanadu

It should be a clue to shape up when many people are constantly complaining about how horrible the staff team is.

Regarding the shekels, I know it ultimately falls on Unix, however, SNK is able to at least give some minor influence and make minor changes. Now, I'm not talking about the prices of the gelat packs themselves, I'm talking about how there is little reward if you're not paying that 200 shekels for a brand new BAR. Nothing is really able to be earned without no-lifing for months. If something was implemented that would at least fix that problem in the form of (even untrade-able) weapons that would be earned from achievements or what have you, then that would be fine. However, as it stands, iEra will continue to have that brand on them making the server utter trash for how it treats the non-paying players.

I'll use Mabinogi North America, which is hosted by Nexon as an example seeing as how they're one of the most hated companies that I know of. In Mabinogi, you can choose to either pay and buy little things that can be somewhat helpful to a casual player or you can choose to pay nothing. Making money is easy in Mabinogi for someone who doesn't pay and they have the chances of netting items that give 5-20mil from dungeon drops. These said items cannot be acquired by paying real money, except for a few rare instances. Players are not forced to pay real money to get the items that they want, but they have the option. Jobs pay well, dungeons pay well, shadow missions pay well, etc.

iEra on the other hand slaps you across the face when you tell it that you do not wish to purchase anything and punishes you with jobs that provide little return and unbalanced guns due to the some players whining about much needed balance changes. I won't go into Mabi's balancing as it's pretty bad, but Nexon is bad with it, but at least you're not forced to pay REAL money. No punishment from them

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Another thing I forgot to mention is that there really should be a speed boost for melees. It'd give an incentive to actually use them

I'll add "economy concerns" and i'll add increasing melee speed as well.  

Posted by Reno

I'll add "economy concerns" and i'll add increasing melee speed as well.

Economy concerns and melee speed? ***** wtf no just put down triple job values. Economy concerns will be taken in anyother ways other than making more shekels. Cookie is basically saying buff the hell outta jobs.
Melee speeds put down melee speed boost cause speed = swing speed.

Posted by Reno

I think there's some misconception that the iEra staff team is in control of things like prices, gralat-packs and other economy related things. We're not. The 'poor business practices' are nothing to do with the everyday staff team.

R u srs? Ok graal is a player made player runned game. Staff can easily manage the economy. Can they control the IAPs? No. But they can give players who dont want to pay a chance to win by buffing jobs and unix cannot say anything about it because it aint his game.  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

Economy concerns and melee speed? ***** wtf no just put down triple job values. Economy concerns will be taken in anyother ways other than making more shekels. Cookie is basically saying buff the hell outta jobs.
Melee speeds put down melee speed boost cause speed = swing speed.




R u srs? Ok graal is a player made player runned game. Staff can easily manage the economy. Can they control the IAPs? No. But they can give players who dont want to pay a chance to win by buffing jobs and unix cannot say anything about it because it aint his game.

Yeah, I meant movement speed. However, Unix has the final say in any as he's the breadwinner. However, he wouldn't say anything about job buffs for money.  

Wtf, who said buff melee speed? That's literally the most useless thing you can do to "improve" this server.

Buff jobs, add actually distinctive features to the weapons and put some time together to make some quests or something.  

Posted by 5hift

Wtf, who said buff melee speed? That's literally the most useless thing you can do to "improve" this server.

Buff jobs, add actually distinctive features to the weapons and put some time together to make some quests or something.

Quests are coming next year! So are new jobs, but I've been thinking of ways to improve the current jobs.

I'd like to thank everyone have gave me constructive feedback, the report has been created and it was a great success. We've started acting upon some of the provided feedback but the majority of updates will occur next year.  

No we dont want new jobs. Theres already like 10jobs as is. We want a massive buff to jobs. I would rather you work on quests or something other than more useless paying jobs.  

Oh and can we get some actually descriptive item descriptions?

The M4 description still stays "cannot duel wield".

Seriously?

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea

No we dont want new jobs. Theres already like 10jobs as is. We want a massive buff to jobs. I would rather you work on quests or something other than more useless paying jobs.

I 100% agree with this. There's absolutely no need to go out of your way and make more useless jobs if the ones you have right now are making hardly any profit. Just buff the money earned from jobs, it's really not that hard. Over the years Graal has been out items have gotten a lot more expensive and jobs have been deliberately nerfed to a point where you almost have to buy Gralat packs. Part of the reason I quit this server is because there is literally no way to buy anything new without slaving away countless hours doing jobs just to buy one silly hat. It's just not fun this way.