Posted by MrSimons

No, they are a lifelong burden. I understand you don't want kids but anyone who thinks of a child as something that is no longer your burden when they turn 18 should definitely not be a parent.

You have made my point even stronger.  

Posted by Conquest

If we are to look at the negative; I'll agree with a large part of this; and also how prostitutes are being worshipped in the media as "glamorous, beautiful people" and their fake marriages. Similarly, more common prostitutes running around using each other for resources and comfort, lying to people to rape them by fraud, constantly trying to arouse people, spreading drugs to replace affection, calling their spouts of year-long whoring "monogamy", people having abortions, men running around on their women and abandoning them, people obsessed with money & looks, popularity contests, spiritual & secular wars, racial wars, theft being called a score, greed being glorified as success, superficial beauty, brainwashing through marketing giving people endless amounts of insecurity and offering them dangerous services & products, encouraging degradation. The list goes on and on.

The politics at current are completely bribed campaigns of dirtbags, because the masses look to cheap media outlets for popular opinions & candidates.

This country is going to hell in a hand-basket if people won't wakeup and start asking why Miley Cyrus is swinging naked on a recking ball on Vh1 licking a hammer, why Trump is speaking like Hitler, government approved radio waves are a revolving cast of hypersexualized erotic dancers, young girls have bulimia and nose jobs. A very high percentage likes to scapegoat the loving traditions in other countries for this free-for-all, soulless nightmare as being "trash that needs wiped off the face of this planet"—then wonder why everyone's saying the same about us.

Lots of people have to go into sex work because they have no other way of earning a living. Take the lgbt community for example, a lot of trans women only have sex work to pay for their lives/transitions because of discrimination, this goes the same for people of color and other minorities. I'm not saying prostitution is s good thing, but this is the only way for some people to get by.
Now, if more anti-discrimination laws were put into affect, or if more people were open minded, I imagine there would be a lot less sex workers in the US.
This is my own opinion, I don't speak for anyone else.

Yes, I mention the LGBT community again because this is a personal issue for me.  

Posted by Ivy

You have made my point even stronger.

Wasn't disagreeing with your main point :p.  

Posted by Ivy

Abortions aren't a problem at all in society.
First of all, not everyone is suited for children (like me, for example, but I'm getting my tubes tied the first chance I get )

Second, kids are ****ing expensive. Not to mention they're an 18 (or more) year long burden.

Additionally, There's already more than enough kids in the system that may never be adopted, and adopting a child is a long and difficult process, especially for POC (people of color).

Oh, and let's not forget victims of sexual assault. They should never have to have that burden, and what about the children who will never meet their fathers? How would you feel if you found out you were conceived from rape?

+rep nice to see someone else on the same page as me  

Posted by Ivy

Abortions aren't a problem at all in society.
First of all, not everyone is suited for children (like me, for example, but I'm getting my tubes tied the first chance I get )

Second, kids are ****ing expensive. Not to mention they're an 18 (or more) year long burden.

Additionally, There's already more than enough kids in the system that may never be adopted, and adopting a child is a long and difficult process, especially for POC (people of color).

Oh, and let's not forget victims of sexual assault. They should never have to have that burden, and what about the children who will never meet their fathers? How would you feel if you found out you were conceived from rape?

ivy taking on antago, this will be a good one  

Posted by MrSimons

Wasn't disagreeing with your main point :p.

I know, and I'm very happy about it. :p

Posted by Crono

ivy taking on antago, this will be a good one

I'll make antago my bitch

Posted by Mizochi

+rep nice to see someone else on the same page as me

Someone make a guild about this omg  

Posted by Conquest

If we are to look at the negative; I'll agree with a large part of this; and also how prostitutes are being worshipped in the media as "glamorous, beautiful people" and their fake marriages. Similarly, more common prostitutes running around using each other for resources and comfort, lying to people to rape them by fraud, constantly trying to arouse people, spreading drugs to replace affection, calling their spouts of year-long whoring "monogamy", people having abortions, men running around on their women and abandoning them, people obsessed with money & looks, popularity contests, spiritual & secular wars, racial wars, theft being called a score, greed being glorified as success, superficial beauty, brainwashing through marketing giving people endless amounts of insecurity and offering them dangerous services & products, encouraging degradation. The list goes on and on.

The politics at current are completely bribed campaigns of dirtbags, because the masses look to cheap media outlets for popular opinions & candidates.

This country is going to hell in a hand-basket if people won't wakeup and start asking why Miley Cyrus is swinging naked on a recking ball on Vh1 licking a hammer, why Trump is speaking like Hitler, government approved radio waves are a revolving cast of hypersexualized erotic dancers, young girls have bulimia and nose jobs. A very high percentage likes to scapegoat the loving traditions in other countries for this free-for-all, soulless nightmare as being "trash that needs wiped off the face of this planet"—then wonder why everyone's saying the same about us.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Are you saying the government should censor dissenting opinions, and censor offensive entertainment?

All I can say is that free speech is an extremely valuable concept. I don't agree with a lot of things said, or many forms of entertainment, but I damn right support the right for people to say it or create these forms of entertainment. The open expression of ideas is what makes democracy great. If you try to censor dissenting ideas or controversial entertainment, it makes the country not much unlike China or North korea.

Posted by Mangsi

Lots of people have to go into sex work because they have no other way of earning a living. Take the lgbt community for example, a lot of trans women only have sex work to pay for their lives/transitions because of discrimination, this goes the same for people of color and other minorities. I'm not saying prostitution is s good thing, but this is the only way for some people to get by.
Now, if more anti-discrimination laws were put into affect, or if more people were open minded, I imagine there would be a lot less sex workers in the US.
This is my own opinion, I don't speak for anyone else.

Yes, I mention the LGBT community again because this is a personal issue for me.

Discrimination does exist, but you're substantially exaggerating the extent to which it exists. A trans individual should not have to go into sex work to support themselves.

The vast majority of employers honestly don't care about an employee being transsexual. The only case in which they would care would be if that employee was being too vocal about their gender identity, to which case they damage the work environment by causing unnecessary drama.(for example, constantly scolding customers/clients for addressing them the wrong way). If you're constantly bringing politics and drama into work instead of focusing on the task at hand, then you are a problem. If you focus on your tasks and don't keep bringing up social justice at work, then they honestly won't care. I have a lot of traits about me that I used to want to seek validation for, but as I grew up I realized it's best to keep things to yourself instead of seeking the validation of others.

If someone is transexual and having trouble finding a job, it's likely their fault. Maybe they don't interview well, maybe they don't have the skills needed to do the job, maybe their field of study isn't in demand.

I'd argue that they'd face far more 'discrimination' in the "sex industry" as a result of people feeling uncomfortable having sex with a transexual, than in a real job like an office job. Someone that's a transexual should have far better luck in an office environment than as a prostitute.  

Posted by Skill

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Are you saying the government should censor dissenting opinions, and censor offensive entertainment?

The guy you're trying to reason with is an ISIS sympathizer, just as some context for you  

Posted by Thallen

The guy you're trying to reason with is an ISIS sympathizer, just as some context for you

Can you link me to his posts where he claims to support isis?  

Posted by Skill

Can you link me to his posts where he claims to support isis?

LOL HERE WE GO  

Your opinions on abortion not being a problem is just that—an opinion; quite frankly while it's convenient to sit around and jump on the liberal train where "everything is okay as long as we let women do it"—I'm not a slave. Again, I've spoke with the Holy Spirit, and before I spoke with Her (the goddess of childbirth), I was following this bandwagon; however, She has made it clear that abortion enrages Her. I am not in any position to propose that my opinions or other people's is above.

In a world where the desire to seduce for power & cheap self-esteem, make a buck, and keep people addicted to the feeling of an orgasm takes precedence over honesty, real problems in society, and actual creativity—you found breaches of moral decay.

In terms of prostitution, okay—not only is this entire million dollar game you are sitting around playing built off of my labor, but I was so poor at varying points in my life that I have had to prostitute myself in varying ways. I've been friends with prostitutes, drug addicts, and countless other social pariahs; I know the trade inside and out. While many people think they have opinions that matter, and you think you have leverage to "make me your bitch"—I'm not interested in arguing with your privileged, worthless atheistic God-hating bull****.

I am the end times judge—and listen up real quick ****—you shut your ****ing mouth. Just yesterday a man tried to force me down and rape me; I am not even an inch interested in arguing with your dumb fascist sexist bull**** today  

Posted by Skill

Can you link me to his posts where he claims to support isis?

Here you are.

Posted by Conquest

What a convenient tale. The media claims most terrorists are Muslims, and when we attack them and they defend themselves with whatever means they have—we sensationalize it as more terrorism. This is erroneous.

Posted by Conquest

We literally kicked the Pakistanis out by the 1950s, then bombed a bunch of innocent people. What you call "American military" is terrorism, and what you call terrorism is victims defending themselves from a foreign invasion.

Posted by Conquest

Yea and if you resist the draft in your country, you go to jail; in early times "you're for us or against us". Same principal. They stand for Islam and justice, and many of them mean well I'm sure. Of course American/Israeli media will do nothing to harm our image or make their target appear innocent or understood in anyway. I don't see what's different from this war and the early Spanish/British theft of the west or other wars. Your government approved media will always make their enemy appear unfathomably unacceptable and inhumane, cruel and unusual, suspect, untrustworthy, dangerous, and crazy. Duh. But think about it

Posted by Conquest

Your opinions on abortion not being a problem is just that—an opinion; quite frankly while it's convenient to sit around and jump on the liberal train where "everything is okay as long as we let women do it"—I'm not a slave. Again, I've spoke with the Holy Spirit, and before I spoke with Her (the goddess of childbirth), I was following this bandwagon; however, She has made it clear that abortion enrages Her. I am not in any position to propose that my opinions or other people's is above.

Debate 101 by Conquest:

When you are being proved wrong, just say that you've spoken with an angel, so whatever you say is obviously more credible than your opponent.  

Posted by MrSimons

When you are being proved wrong, just say that you've spoken with an angel, so whatever you say is obviously more credible than your opponent.

Tell me, how many times have you been raped, helped a woman through an abortion, spoke with God—or prostituted yourself? How many black rights activist groups do you belong to? How many religious texts have you studied? My guess is this isn't your life—but yet you air your opinions around like a few others in indulgence & abuse of the Constitution—not in gratitude or honor.  

Posted by Conquest

Tell me, how many times have you been raped, helped a woman through an abortion, spoke with God—or prostituted yourself? How many black rights activist groups do you belong to? How many religious texts have you studied? My guess is this isn't your life—but yet you air your opinions around like a few others in indulgence & abuse of the Constitution—not in gratitude or honor.

Ya but it's my right as an American :^)  

Posted by Conquest

Tell me, how many times have you been raped, helped a woman through an abortion, spoke with God—or prostituted yourself? How many black rights activist groups do you belong to? How many religious texts have you studied? My guess is this isn't your life—but yet you air your opinions around like a few others in indulgence & abuse of the Constitution—not in gratitude or honor.

Going for the "if you haven't done this ridiculous bull**** your opinion isn't valid"? You got me man, I'll go turn tricks on the corner so that I'll be down to your level for discussion purposes, k?