More Baddy Infested Areas - 2

Narcosis · 07-25-2014

Posted by Dusty

I always have incentive to make more baddies, as it's a fun thing to do! The issue is there's no places to really put them and creating areas exclusively for farming baddies sounds lame.

Agreed, that's why you spiff it up with chests, bugs, perhaps a new rps hat NPC. Maybe another type of daily component, like the loot chests in the hidden bandit cave that respawn every day. But it would need to be different than that and different than the pyrat daily. Expanding my castle dungeon idea, maybe there's a locked prisoner down there who's innocent, and one of the guards has the key. So you make it maybe a 5% drop rate on all the baddies (except the rare spawn, which would drop it 100% of the time), and the player kills baddies till they find it. Maybe they get lucky and get it on their first kill. You let the prisoner out and he/she rewards you with a chest that was sitting in the cell with her. This chest is added to your inventory (much like the spoils from the giant blob), and when you open it you get a random amount of gralats, say from 100 to 1000. The prisoner makes a break for it but is caught in 24 hours and so on and so fourth.

Additionally, the dungeon itself should have a steep baddy kill requirement before being able to enter. It makes sense, too.

There you go, Dusty. A new area full of baddies that makes sense (a dungeon in the castle would surely have guards), and has stuff to do rather than just farming baddies for the sake of it.

Thallen · 07-25-2014

Posted by Dusty

Sup?

Was intended to be released alongside railroads but encountered some technical issues.

Nice!
I don't know how memory allocation or anything about the Graal server itself works, but I'd imagine something like this would alleviate a lot of lag from the ground-level overworld, assuming something like this was all on a secondary GMAP.

Narcosis · 07-25-2014

Posted by Dusty

Sup?

(Awesome pic)

Was intended to be released alongside railroads but encountered some technical issues.

Reeaalllyy? Is it still in development? That would be huge!

Dusty · 07-25-2014

Posted by Thallen

Nice!
I don't know how memory allocation or anything about the Graal server itself works, but I'd imagine something like this would alleviate a lot of lag from the ground-level overworld, assuming something like this was all on a secondary GMAP.

It was never really intended to be a secondary overworld. It was meant to be a way to get from one dive spot to another(aka like the lake in swamp town). Even if it was, I highly doubt it would pull players away from the overworld... after all, the railroad caves themselves didn't do a very good job at that either in the long run.

Posted by Narcosis

Reeaalllyy? Is it still in development? That would be huge!

Not really. As is most things made it's not scrapped, but there is little reason to push it above the priority of other projects being worked on. It was also more of a "pretty" thing to go alongside diving, and there wasn't a lot of true content planned for it.

It'll be sitting on the back burner until I get to the point where I feel underwater content would be a useful direction to go.

Tricxta · 07-25-2014

Posted by Dusty

It'll be sitting on the back burner until I get to the point where I feel underwater content would be a useful direction to go.

For sure, would be a nice location to place hidden content. *nudge* scarf quest *nudge*

Craftz · 07-25-2014

Posted by Tricxta

For sure, would be a nice location to place hidden content. *nudge* scarf quest *nudge*

Who needs a scarf under water?

GOAT · 07-25-2014

Posted by Dusty

after all, the railroad caves themselves didn't do a very good job at that either in the long run.

try adding a swarm of baddies in the caves that might get people in there.

Posted by Craftz1

Who needs a scarf under water?

a fish during winter

Droid · 07-25-2014

Posted by Dusty

I don't think players are looking for more baddies to kill so much as quickest/easiest baddies to kill.

well i am not, just regular traditional baddies are fine with me. Just more spread out is all i am asking.

4-Lom · 07-25-2014

Posted by Dusty

Not really. As is most things made it's not scrapped, but there is little reason to push it above the priority of other projects being worked on. It was also more of a "pretty" thing to go alongside diving, and there wasn't a lot of true content planned for it.

It'll be sitting on the back burner until I get to the point where I feel underwater content would be a useful direction to go.

This strikes a chord with me... waaaay back in "The adventure of link" (LOZ2, for NES) and also in several gameboy versions of the legend of zelda series, there was some pretty interesting side scrolling action, which the mini game "Jump and Run" seemed reminiscent of ;)

Stuff like this does seem to be just pretty, but it adds a lot of flavor to the game, if done well. I hope to see something using your diving/swimming system! It not only looks good, but has potential - maybe test it out with a mini game format first? (I still have yet to even get IN to cliff climber, what with the Queue system running and all!)

Oh, and why aren't there any kamikazee baddies?

Droid · 07-25-2014

Couldn't the community get involved with with making new baddies? maybe a simple template for a new baddie would be good, kind of like a small friendly based competition.

This would allow level designers to include others baddie design in their levels, not that I know anything about levels. But, a simple template where people could design one and post it here would be great!

Rufus · 07-25-2014

Posted by Droid

Couldn't the community get involved with with making new baddies? maybe a simple template for a new baddie would be good, kind of like a small friendly based competition.

This would allow level designers to include others baddie design in their levels, not that I know anything about levels. But, a simple template where people could design one and post it here would be great!

To answer what you asked me and this post here: There is no standard template for baddies; they are all made of individual sprites, ganis and are scripted with their own behaviors. This gives rise to a greater variety of baddy styles.

Droid · 07-25-2014

Posted by Rufus

There is no standard template for baddies; they are all made of individual sprites, ganis and are scripted with their own behaviors. This gives rise to a greater variety of baddy styles.

So how can the community experiment and try to create their own? or is this not possible as of yet?

Wushen · 07-25-2014

Would be fun to have levels that we need to complete fighting Baddies and to beat a final boss at the end with a randomised reward like the ones from giant blob.

Hadzz · 07-25-2014

Posted by Dusty

Sup?

Was intended to be released alongside railroads but encountered some technical issues.

Ulgh breastroke looks even more wrong

GOAT · 07-25-2014

Posted by Droid

So how can the community experiment and try to create their own? or is this not possible as of yet?

1. you can learn how to create one from scratch
http://www.graal.net/index.php/Creat.../Gani/Tutorial

2. you can use an existing baddy and edit it

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still, it doesnt mean it would be used in-game

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